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Re:  Avoding a repeat of W3C XSD - was Re:  IsWeb 2.0
Michael Champion wrote:

> Hmmm.  If half a community is saying a spec is good and the other half
> isn't, perhaps they are two communities, one with a use for the spec
> and the other without?  

The people who don't need a spec tend to ignore it. For instance, I 
pretty much ignore the whole RDF/SemWeb space. If it works someday, 
great. If not it doesn't seem likely to get in my way. I can't be 
bothered enough to comment on the specs in any major way, aside from 
trivial details I might happen to notice almost by accident.

The real resistance comes from developers who want 
schemas/namespaces/object models/etc. but don't want the particular 
forms the W3C is proposing to force down their throats.

>  The web services specs or the semantic web
> specs are obvious examples of those that serve the needs of a subset
> of the "XML community" but are irrelevant (and somewhat distatesful)
> to other subsets.  

That's another good example, but I think what's happening there is that 
everyone wants some sort of general web service ability. However not 
everyone wants SOAP, remote procedure calls, a castrated XML syntax, and 
an incredibly baroque stack of specifications layered on top of each 
other. I don't recall a lot of wailing about web services from people 
doing Biblical analysis, publishing, and other non-Webapp applications 
of XML (well maybe a little when the subject of binaries came up). The 
real objections to SOAP and its spawn came from people who were 
developing we applications but in concert with HTTP and XML instead of 
in opposition to it.

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