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RE: Is the XML Schema Test Collection still alive

• To: "'Michael Champion'" <michaelc.champion@g...>,<xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: RE: Is the XML Schema Test Collection still alive
• From: "Michael Kay" <mike@s...>
• Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:48:13 +0100
• In-reply-to: <e3a5cb2c05041509121fa15ff8@m...>
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It's worth pointing out that anyone whose schema doesn't conform to UPA is
going to have problems when they start using schema-aware queries or
transformations, because it's going to be unpredictable what the types (and
therefore the typed values) of the nodes are.

Michael Kay 
http://www.saxonica.com/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Champion [mailto:michaelc.champion@g...] 
> Sent: 15 April 2005 17:13
> To: xml-dev@l...
> Subject: Re:  Is the XML Schema Test Collection still alive
> 
> On 4/14/05, Michael Kay <mike@s...> wrote:
> > > I generally agree, except that more and more tools are 
> forced to add
> > > "buggy tool compatibility modes"  to make this happen with minimal
> > > customer pain.
> > 
> > That's a road to ruin. It only prolongs the pain.
> 
> Yes, that's a good point. 
> 
> > 
> > Conforming to the schema spec may be hard, but conforming to another
> > implementor's undocumented and changing bugs is completely 
> impossible.
> 
>  I do think a good case can be made for putting in  flag to cover a
> well known class of conformance issues, such as those related to the
> UPA constraint, especially since a widely used tool apparently
> deliberately chose not to follow the spec in this area.   I have heard
> about a fair number of our users who don't have the ability to fix
> such schemas, but don't want the validator to choke on them either. 
> Gresham's Law being what it is, such users will simply use validators
> that don't worry about (or give you a switch to ignore) that class of
> conformance issues ... and then the "bad validators" will tend to
> drive out the "good validators."
> 
> It's a dilemma for sure.  All I can think of suggesting, wearing the
> Day Job hat, is to provide this particular flag but strongly warn
> against its use except as a last resort.
> 
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