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Re: all group composition

• To: Carlos Pita <carlosjosepita@y...>
• Subject: Re: all group composition
• From: Jeff Greif <jgreif@a...>
• Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 15:46:10 -0800
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <200504012012.42609.carlosjosepita@y...>
• References: <200504012012.42609.carlosjosepita@y...>
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If the properties are simple enough, a set of required attributes would 
do the trick, as these are meant to be unordered.
Jeff

Carlos Pita wrote:

>In my case, the user will enter a subset from
>a considerable number of properties and
>order is not significative. So although
>the properties are simple and intuitive per se
>and the user has no no need to specify
>or even know the entire set, there is
>no natural ordering between them, so
>imposing an ordering seems undesirable
>to me and forces the user to put an eye
>on the xml editor and the other in
>a detailed element order specification.
>A lot has been written in favor
>of more declarative lenguages that do not
>or try to not impose constraints unrelated
>to the problem domain. Also, in this case
>it will be harder neither for users nor
>for programs to read/validate the "unordered"
>properties cause no one has any kind of
>semantic dependence on the value of any other.
>They can all be understood / processed
>independently. Well, anyway it's not SO
>important. Perhaps I would switch to relax
>ng.
>
>Regards,
>Carlos
>
>
>  
>
>>>It's actually not a favor to users to allow unconstrained order where 
>>>order doesn't matter, e.g., in 'data records'. 
>>>      
>>>
>>I think that's a matter of opinion and it's an area where the document
>>designer should not be constrained by what the tools allow and don't allow.
>>
>>My own recent experience of creating documents whose schema imposed an order
>>that I found unnatural and impossible to remember was a very negative one. I
>>actually ended up editing without a schema and writing a stylesheet to put
>>the fields into the required order.
>>
>>Michael Kay
>>http://www.saxonica.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>    
>>
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