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 i would have thought the views of the consumer were more important in that the xml document interpretation is (for a human or a machine) the "useful" bit. personally i make use of lots of non-infoset stuff when first constructing an xml document so that i can check it manually; i often reformat xml documents when trying to understand them (eg when setting up new trading relationships); etc. in production i usually don't care. but when something goes wrong i go back to very readable forms to debug things. does that help? rick Alessandro Triglia wrote: > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Bob Foster [mailto:bob@o...] >>Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 17:48 >>To: Alessandro Triglia >>Cc: amyzing@t...; xml-dev@l... >>Subject: Re: Re: Non-infoset >> >> >>Alessandro Triglia wrote: >> > Entities are in the non-infoset. I have asked how many >>creators of >>XML documents need them. If they are a good number, then the >>infoset is >>important. >> >>And I have answered. Everyone who authors an XML document by >>hand needs >>them. Sooner or later one will need to escape one or more of the >>characters ', ", <, > or &. >> >>What, you want a count of the number of people who authors by >>hand? >> >> > > >Certainly not. I am trying to get a feel of the existing views on how much relevance the non-infoset part of an XML document has for the creator of the document (be it a program or a person). > >I have often heard the comment that the infoset is not important because nobody uses it except spec writers. I am trying to understand whether "nobody uses it" means "people typically need to express more than the infoset contains" or whether it means "people don't use the word 'infoset'". > > > > >>You >>don't think it's a big number? I don't get your point, nor why you >>started this unnecessary squabble. >> >> > > >See above. I know for sure that there are many applications that don't care about defining entities and referencing those defined entities, or that are happy with either attribute delimiter, and so on. I would conclude that those applications would be happy with exchanging infosets instead of XML 1.0 documents. I am trying to determine what is the weight of those applications overall. > >Alessandro > > > > >>Bob >> >> >>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an >>initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> >> >>The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ >> >>To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription >>manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> >> >> >> >> > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an >initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > >The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > >To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription >manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > > >!DSPAM:4259a43b183811836547508! > > > begin:vcard fn:Rick Marshall n:Marshall;Rick email;internet:rjm@z... tel;cell:+61 411 287 530 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard 
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