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 You're a Nazi (was that the correct closure syntax?) On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:00:39 -0500, Bornholtz, Tim <Tim.Bornholtz@e...> wrote: > Oh please!!! > > Will someone just call someone else a Nazi so we can invoke Goodwin's law and call this thread dead?!?!? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: M. David Peterson [mailto:m.david.x2x2x@g...] > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:56 PM > To: Bullard, Claude L (Len) > Cc: Bill Kearney; xml-dev@lists. xml. org > Subject: Re: Rigged Aggregators? > > >> If anything is needed here (and > >> it's not clear that there is anything needed) it is for the people > >> with the knowledge of the cited technologies and companies to stand up > >> and say "this is nonsense". Nothing more; > > Amen! > > With one or two trusted resources sounding off in an email they can > qualify or debunk all of this right away. But until they do consider > that there are so many little things in this piece that are completely > chopped and left fuzzy. Fuzziness generally suggests something to be > unclear. If something is unclear then all pieces following it are > based on assumption rather than fact. While the piece was quite clear > in the beginning the fuzz began to creep in right at the point where > states and documented problems with the elections were linked to for > qualification but then followed with fuzzy areas that seems to allow > the assumption to be the fact because of the verifiable link that > followed before or after it. Anything that claims fuzziness of a > system with fuzziness of its own must be seen as completely bogus > until such time as the fuzziness can be cleared up. Why be fuzzy when > your absolutely confident the evidence exists? There's no need to. > > An example of some fuzz >> Washington state was named as a problem > state but Washington gave its electoral votes to Kerry. While the > entire piece was focused on the Federal elections suddenly > Washington's race for Governor became the topic of focus, not the > Federal election. Why? Is Nick Chalko also determined to select > Washington States Governor? If so then it seems he should have thrown > another hack or two in to help clear the way for his candidate of > choice as never has there been such a mess of a Governors race in any > state for as long as this lasted. Are Nicks hacks faulty then? Does > this then suggest that the entire system he built was faulty and as > such completely uncontrollable in any general direction. but why > again is the focus suddenly on the race for Governor when the piece is > focused on the Federal elections? > > North and South Carolina were not even considered showdown states > (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/) so why hack the results of a state > you are already near guaranteed to win? Using N/S Carolina as examples > is then completely useless. > > It seems to me if you focus away from the "technical hack" side of > this piece and more along the areas such as the above examples this > piece is so full of holes it would probably take an admission of guilt > from the Republican party to bring back ANY sort of credibility. Is > it possible to cripple a system with bad XML? Yes! But hat doesnt > mean it did! > > Bogus until someone in whom we can all accept as a pure authority > steps in and says otherwise... > > Anybody with those credentials care to jump in and sound off? > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:57:58 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) > <len.bullard@i...> wrote: > - Show quoted text - > > Hmmm... I have to disagree with you, Bill. I think we > > will see more blogs like that, and just as 'intelligent > > design' is making its way into school science classes, > > more superstition will be presented as credible theories > > because those capable of refuting them refuse to take > > the time. > > > > It's a short walk back to the trees and caves. No > > pushing or shoving required. > > > > len > > > > From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@s...] > > > > > That won't be good enough. Not nearly. The American > > > electorate is evenly split. The world electorate is > > > expressing a displeasure. > > > > Oh please, get a grip. That and spare us from yanking this whole stupid > > thread off into another entirely unrelated realm. And using $5 words > > doesn't make it seems any less stupid a thread. > > > > > Because it was and from someone who blogs prominently, I thought > > > it a good idea to get experts to look it over. As in open source, > > > the more smart eyes, the better. > > > > Err no, more like yet another example of blog narcissism, masquerading > > itself as visibility. Please, it's an entirely bogus set of arguments with > > seemingly little purpose other than to gain visibility for a crackpot. > > Shame on you for falling prey to the ploy, you should know better. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > > > > > > -- > <M:D/> > > On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:57:58 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) > <len.bullard@i...> wrote: > > Hmmm... I have to disagree with you, Bill. I think we > > will see more blogs like that, and just as 'intelligent > > design' is making its way into school science classes, > > more superstition will be presented as credible theories > > because those capable of refuting them refuse to take > > the time. > > > > It's a short walk back to the trees and caves. No > > pushing or shoving required. > > > > len > > > > From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@s...] > > > > > That won't be good enough. Not nearly. The American > > > electorate is evenly split. The world electorate is > > > expressing a displeasure. > > > > Oh please, get a grip. That and spare us from yanking this whole stupid > > thread off into another entirely unrelated realm. And using $5 words > > doesn't make it seems any less stupid a thread. > > > > > Because it was and from someone who blogs prominently, I thought > > > it a good idea to get experts to look it over. As in open source, > > > the more smart eyes, the better. > > > > Err no, more like yet another example of blog narcissism, masquerading > > itself as visibility. Please, it's an entirely bogus set of arguments with > > seemingly little purpose other than to gain visibility for a crackpot. > > Shame on you for falling prey to the ploy, you should know better. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > > > > > > -- > <M:D/> > > :: M. David Peterson :: > XML & XML Transformations, C#, .NET, and Functional Languages Specialist > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > -- <M:D/> :: M. David Peterson :: XML & XML Transformations, C#, .NET, and Functional Languages Specialist 
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