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On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 09:52 -0800, Dare Obasanjo wrote: > Your comments above hint at the real problem. It seems you are equating > the notion of 'one Web' with a 'binary XML Web' which is why people like > ERH are against your efforts. > > Instead of using domain specific technologies optimized for that target > domain, various parties want to usurp interoperable text-based XML with > some binary derivation of it. Sometimes I look at efforts like SOAP and > wonder if we wouldn't have all been better off if they hadn't picked > ASN.1 instead. Trying to satisfy the needs of a person editing business > documents with WordML and a developer building distributed applications > using similar toolkits has proven to be a problem no one has quite > figured how to truly solve. I'd rather see the XML world solve the API > and toolkit problem first before further fragmenting itself into > text-based XML and binary XML. <aol>co-sign.</aol> I'm glad that someone else said put this so clearly. And I'm also glad that someone else will, as a result, attract the strange, sarcastic, impenetrable non-argument that Berjon has been flinging about this thread ;-) I just get to nod and watch, for once. The API problem is certainly far more interesting, but I'm not convinced the XML community as a whole can get together to fix it. I think the whole problem with DOM and SAX is that they are LCDs for all the various languages and platforms interested in XML. I think the best APIs are environment-specific. From COmega to HAXML, the right work is already progressing. Let's just keep the W3C out of it. -- Uche Ogbuji Fourthought, Inc. http://uche.ogbuji.net http://4Suite.org http://fourthought.com Use CSS to display XML - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss-i.html Introducing the Amara XML Toolkit - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2005/01/19/amara.html Be humble, not imperial (in design) - http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=10286 Querying WordNet as XML - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-think29.html Manage XML collections with XAPI - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-xapi.html Default and error handling in XSLT lookup tables - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tiplook.html Packaging XSLT lookup tables as EXSLT functions - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tiplook2.html
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