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Hi David, Thanks. It would have seamed quite useful to have... Perhaps it would be useful to start inventory monitoring parameters, etc. Seams like a good potential for OWL/topic maps. (It is not a very straightforward project - Just imagine different opinions on what, why and how can be measured!) Are there any enthusiasts? Cheers, --Nikita ! -----Original Message----- ! From: david.lyon@c... [mailto:david.lyon@c...] ! Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 10:48 PM ! To: Nikita Ogievetsky ! Cc: 'Chiusano Joseph'; xml-dev@l... ! Subject: RE: monitoring vocabularies ! ! Hi Nikita, ! ! I'm blown away... you are obviously thinking ahead one ! or two steps... ! ! ! Quoting Nikita Ogievetsky <nogievet@c...>: ! ! > Hi Joe, ! > ! > ! > ! > Thank you for the reference, indeed, WSDM-MOWS is quite interesting and ! > useful. ! > ! > I was however looking for a wider monitoring vocabulary that includes ! other ! > domains such as: ! > ! > ! > ! > Web Services ! > ! > Business flow monitoring ! > ! > Batch job monitoring ! > ! > Database Monitoring ! > ! > Host performance ! > ! > Network performance ! > ! > Transactions ! > ! > Middleware ! > ! > Applications ! > ! > Etc. ! > ! > ! > ! > It seams to be a very useful vocabulary to have. ! > ! > If most vendors agreed on such a vocabulary, distributed monitoring ! would be ! > a much easier task. ! > ! > ! > ! > Joe, ! > ! > In addition to WSDM WS initiative that you mentioned I came across some ! > other resources related to distributed monitoring: ! > ! > http://www.par.univie.ac.at/~truong/publications/ - a series of papers ! on ! > Unified Grid Monitoring ! > ! > ! > http://gridmon.dl.ac.uk/ Grid Network Performance Monitoring for UK ! > e-Science, definitions of metrics ! > ! > ! > Also, this presentation: http://gridrm.org/pubs/talks/RAL03/talk.ppt ! (Data ! > harvesting from heterogeneous systems) talks about Grid Monitoring ! Markup ! > Language. ! > ! > But searching Google for "Grid Monitoring Markup Language" returns no ! other ! > resources. ! > ! > Some other papers refer to "Monitoring Markup Language (MML)", ! (including ! > http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-4684/6mk6mn3rk?a=view, for example) ! > ! > ! > ! > Does anybody know if actual MML or GMML schemas are available? ! > ! > ! > ! > Kind Regards, ! > ! > ! > ! > --Nikita ! > ! > ! > ! > _____ ! > ! > From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@b...] ! > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:10 AM ! > To: Nikita Ogievetsky; xml-dev@l... ! > Subject: RE: monitoring vocabularies ! > ! > ! > ! > Hi Nikita, ! > ! > ! > ! > I recommend you look at the work of the OASIS (Web Services Distributed ! > Management) WSDM TC, as well as the WS-Management vendor-based ! > specification. I don't believe that either is ontology-based, but there ! will ! > be schemas there. ! > ! > ! > ! > Cheers, ! > ! > Joe ! > ! > ! > ! > Joseph Chiusano ! > ! > Booz Allen Hamilton ! > ! > Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World ! > ! > ! > ! > ! > ! > ! > _____ ! > ! > ! > From: Nikita Ogievetsky [mailto:nogievet@c...] ! > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 7:00 AM ! > To: xml-dev@l... ! > Subject: monitoring vocabularies ! > ! > Dear All, ! > ! > ! > ! > Does anybody know of an attempt to standardize performance monitoring ! and/or ! > business process monitoring? ! > ! > Had anybody come across a ! > ! > - vocabulary (PSI?) of things to monitor, ! > ! > - Ontology of things related to monitoring, ! > ! > - schemas for monitoring messages? ! > ! > (I found several proposals to create these, but could not find anything ! > comprehensive) ! > ! > ! > ! > Thanks, ! > ! > ! > ! > --Nikita ! > ! > ! ! ! ! ! ----------------------------------------------------------------
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