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Yes, it's unfair to dump concepts from ongoing research into a thread where some are fascinated by their tools and others by what tools add to a given design problem. I'm doing some economics work right now. Explaining pointys to MBAs is usually a waste of time. They want to see a model that crunches numbers. Markov: state predictability. Beats: in music, where one places the beat determines the steps. Combinations of beat and frequency make music predictable. Big systems designs emphasize predictability. Emergent systems model techniques for working with the limits of predictable behavior. Depending on which side of the structuralist vs free trader polarity one emphasizes, the tools and the quality of predictability change. The same is true of static and dynamic typing for roughly the same reasons. Choose well for the design at hand. Your posts make perfect sense to the guy in the mirror. So do mine. It is easy to starve gazing at one's own reflection. len From: Uche Ogbuji [mailto:uche.ogbuji@f...] On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 17:28 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote: > Yes. Now we are getting into an interesting area > of networks: free traders and structuralists. > Walter Perry's POV is the perfect free trader POV. > Schemas like GJXDM represent the structuralist POV. > Structuralists want control. Free traders want > opportunity. Sorry, Len, but I think this thread ceased making sense to me about 3 of your posts ago. Ducks? (I know of "duck typing" as an argument *in favor* of dynamicism, and Google corroborates that impression), Beats? Markov? Whatever. I'm done with this unproductive thread. I suspect that as Vladimir points out, a bunch of Java programmers and a Python programmer are never likely to agree on the topic of typing. Heck, back in my many days as a C++ programmer I would have disagreed with post-1996 Uche. If someone starts actually discussing code or angle brackets again, maybe I'll regain some interest, but for now, I have code *and* angle brackets to write (tons of 'em). In my case, real work *is* more fun. -- Uche Ogbuji Fourthought, Inc. http://uche.ogbuji.net http://4Suite.org http://fourthought.com Use CSS to display XML - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/edu/x-dw-x-xmlcss-i.html Full XML Indexes with Gnosis - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/12/08/py-xml.html Be humble, not imperial (in design) - http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=10286 UBL 1.0 - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-think28.html Use Universal Feed Parser to tame RSS - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tipufp.html Default and error handling in XSLT lookup tables - http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-tiplook.html A survey of XML standards - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-stand4/ The State of Python-XML in 2004 - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2004/10/13/py-xml.html
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