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ubl gjxdm
Yes, it's unfair to dump concepts from ongoing 
research into a thread where some are fascinated 
by their tools and others by what tools add 
to a given design problem.  I'm doing some 
economics work right now.  Explaining pointys 
to MBAs is usually a waste of time.  They want 
to see a model that crunches numbers.

Markov: state predictability.   Beats:  in music, 
where one places the beat determines the steps. 
Combinations of beat and frequency make music 
predictable.  Big systems designs emphasize 
predictability.  Emergent systems model  
techniques for working with the limits of 
predictable behavior.  Depending on which side 
of the structuralist vs free trader polarity 
one emphasizes, the tools and the quality of 
predictability change.   The same is true 
of static and dynamic typing for roughly the 
same reasons.  Choose well for the design at hand.

Your posts make perfect sense to the guy in the 
mirror.  So do mine.  It is easy to starve 
gazing at one's own reflection.

len


From: Uche Ogbuji [mailto:uche.ogbuji@f...]

On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 17:28 -0600, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> Yes.  Now we are getting into an interesting area 
> of networks:  free traders and structuralists. 
> Walter Perry's POV is the perfect free trader POV. 
> Schemas like GJXDM represent the structuralist POV. 
> Structuralists want control.   Free traders want 
> opportunity.   

Sorry, Len, but I think this thread ceased making sense to me about 3 of
your posts ago.  Ducks?  (I know of "duck typing" as an argument *in
favor* of dynamicism, and Google corroborates that impression), Beats?
Markov?

Whatever.  I'm done with this unproductive thread.  I suspect that as
Vladimir points out, a bunch of Java programmers and a Python programmer
are never likely to agree on the topic of typing.  Heck, back in my many
days as a C++ programmer I would have disagreed with post-1996 Uche.

If someone starts actually discussing code or angle brackets again,
maybe I'll regain some interest, but for now, I have code *and* angle
brackets to write (tons of 'em).  In my case, real work *is* more fun.


-- 
Uche Ogbuji                                    Fourthought, Inc.
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