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• To: <david.lyon@c...>, "Bullard, Claude L \(Len\)" <len.bullard@i...>
• Subject: RE: A bunch of components, but no mandated organization - reasonable?
• From: "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@b...>
• Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 20:18:17 -0500
• Cc: "XML Developers List" <xml-dev@l...>
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• Thread-topic: A bunch of components, but no mandated organization - reasonable?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: david.lyon@c... 
> [mailto:david.lyon@c...] 
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:20 PM
> To: Bullard, Claude L (Len)
> Cc: 'XML Developers List'
> Subject: RE:  A bunch of components, but no mandated 
> organization - reasonable?
> 
> 
> Len,
> 
> Difficult to argue with you when you are right :-)
> 
> > Step away from the machine for a moment and ask, how do market 
> > grammars and market protocols emerge?  Trades.
> > Another model for that is "discourses".
> >
> > 1.  If you don't start with a grammar, you will create one.
> > 2.  If you don't start with a protocol, you will create one.
> 
> Well this implies that XML needs it's own protocol, and I 
> would probably agree with that. I don't believe that SOAP 
> really embraces all that can be done with XML, even XML ver 1.0.

I'm a bit puzzled by your characterization of SOAP here - perhaps you
might be thinking that it was intended for much more than it actually
is, which is a message enveloping protocol. Why would SOAP need to
"embrace all that can be done with XML"? What is not included in SOAP
that should be?
 
> Here we do searches on XML documents, and if we have more 
> than one machine, we can grid the searches to get results 
> back a little faster.
> 
> Things like SOAP aren't really setup to do this kind of thing 
> with the kind of speed that having the XML would suggest 
> would be required to do the cool things.. just my opinion.

What aspect(s) of the above example do you believe should be done by
SOAP, but are not?

Kind Regards,
Joseph Chiusano
Booz Allen Hamilton
Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World

> Where is this going...? Len is perceptive and probably right. 
> Organisation and the way all the components are assembled is 
> the key to everything.. life.. the universe..
> everything.. change the six cosmological constants even 
> slightly and you can end up with something entirely different...
> 
> 
> David
> 
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