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Re: XML-aware programming language?

• To: David Carlisle <davidc@n...>
• Subject: Re: XML-aware programming language?
• From: Burak Emir <Burak.Emir@e...>
• Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 13:28:37 +0100
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David Carlisle wrote:

>  People *are* indeed always using the same prefixes (xsl, xsd, xsi...) 
>  and declaring them in the root...
>
>some people are but much XML isn't written by people.
>If you generate a mixed namespace document with XSLT (and probably many
>other systems) the natural place that the namespace declarations appear
>is on each use not at the top of the document, as XSLT is designed to
>allow the result document to be linearised as it is generated, so there
>is no way of telling it to back up and add a namespace declaration at
>the top if you discover half way through generating your XHTML document
>that you need to add some svg or mathml or something. It was of course
>concerns such as this that led to the namespace rec allowing
>declarations mid document in the first place.
>
>  
>
Sure, but the namespace rec never expressed itself about qnames in content.

If this requirement had been foreseen, I am sure the rec would have 
included expanded names {iri}:localName, thereby *forcing* implementors 
that want to be conformant with the spec to add a preprocessing run that 
expands all prefixes.

>  The annoying exceptions can very clearly be marked by any implementation 
>  as not supported, and it is quite easy to turn an unsupported XML 
>  document into a supported one (changing, moving prefixes).
>
>Easy with a text editor, but is it easy with "XML programming languages"
>such as Xquery or XSLT? 
>
>  
>
In that case, very easy to specify a postprocessing run that makes the 
XML sane again.

Surely performance suffers, but correctness wins.

cheers,
Burak

-- 
Burak Emir

http://lamp.epfl.ch/~buraq

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