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While I absolutely agree with Rich, it's still true that contribution to the standards process is restricted. A year ago, on this list, I suggested moving off xml 1.0 onto xml 1.1 or xml 2.0. In polite terms I was told to take a hike because I wasn't allowed to contribute. Whatever.... W3C makes no secret of of trying to "control" internet protocols. By definition it wants to put the brakes on anything else. But it's a big world. People shouldn't complain about these restrictions, just go and find some other people that will listen (and pay for stuff). It's a big world.... David Quoting Rich Salz <rsalz@d...>: > > Well, I think it means that many well-intentioned developers, who want > > to contribute to the Web services vision, aren't being given a > > consistent (or even coherent) message about how exactly they should go > > about doing that. And I don't see anything happening now to remedy > > that. > > Ah c'mon, you've been in the field long enough to know better. > > Given the capitalistic and competitive nature of this field, I think we've > made amazing progresss in the past 15-20 years. We have a global > interconnected network with a single protocol suite, as opposed to islands > with protocol gateways. We can exchange mail messages, files, and web > pages, so we have some interopable applications. We now have a single > data representation, so we can exchange structured data essentially > anywhere. > > We don't have a single programming language (not PL/I, C, Ada, Java, or > C#), we don't have a single programming model for local programs either. > Why expect a globally consistent message for how to do distributed > computing over the Internet? > > I suspect your post was a stalking horse for a REST discussion... > > /r$ > -- > Rich Salz Chief Security Architect > DataPower Technology http://www.datapower.com > XS40 XML Security Gateway http://www.datapower.com/products/xs40.html > XML Security Overview http://www.datapower.com/xmldev/xmlsecurity.html > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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