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Carsten, Please stop the negativity. Gerald is a good guy. He does an awful lot of work, too. Thanks, Daniel > > Hi Gerald, > > I'm sure that you and others are highly impressed by > what MS did achieve in the last 20 or so years, but I > was rather impressed by the recent "meta-discussions" > about XML and now I am really annoyed by having that > high a level of discussion on and questioning of XML > and related technologies, destroyed and occluded by > your XAML initiative. > > How about discussing that rather specific theme on the > appropriate MS and other softie's mailing lists and > not on the ever so general and sometimes meta-physical > XML mailing list? > > Or are you afraid that people start questioning > so-called achievements by the industry - eventually > coming to terms that XML is not everything. In fact, > XML is just nothing, it even puts us back to > pre-relational times, when we had plain-text files to > cope with. > > I'd rather have that sort of discussion here, and I am > only a quiet observer for sometime, as having a > "party-rallying" for MS technologies, that haven't > been invented by them in the first place. Sorry for > bashing, but it has to be said that XUL was there and > is, and XAML has yet to show it's full potential and > that is actually is working correctly and stable. > Besides, I recently had a look at MS .com website and > found that they do not even use ASP.net, even after > them having revamped their website, or was it because > I was using Mozilla and ASP.net does not produce > standards based HTML, Javascript etc.? Do we not eat > our own dog-food? > > So, why don't you just ask your questions on XML > rather than destroying valuable and creative > discussions on behalf of XML, by throwing in some > semi-discussion/question on XUL, eh I mean an XML > derivative and proprietary language called XAML? > > Thanks for leaving us with the higher and lower ethics > of XML and the languages associated with it, their > potentials and obvious failures in terms of > specifications, re-usability, abstractability, and > whatever there is more to language and the culture > associated with it. > > > Regards, > > Carsten Klein > > > > --- Gerald Bauer <luxorxul@y...> schrieb: > > Hello Sergio, > > > > >> * I do not say MyXaml is a language but rather a > > parser > > > > > > In other words: XAML is a XML Application not a > > XML > > > Vocabulary, because it needs some special > > treatment > > > when parsing the XML document..., is this right? > > > > First, to clarify the statement about MyXAML is > > not > > mine but from Marc Clifton. > > > > The new cleaned-up XAML Microsoft is working on > > will be like MyXAML a domain-neutral format > > competing > > with plain vanilla XML. XAML is neither a XML > > application nor a XML vocabulary. XAML is a sort of > > XML# or XML++ like XML is a sort of SGML--. To use > > XAML like XML you need a parser e.g instead of using > > a > > XML parser you now need to use a XAML parser that > > supports compound syntax, binding syntax, styling > > syntax, etc. > > > > Microsoft's upcoming markup languages competing > > with HTML, SVG, XSL-FO, etc. will not be XML > > applications or XML vocabularies but XAML > > applications > > or XAML vocabularies. > > > > - Gerald > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org > > <http://www.xml.org>, an > > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > > > The list archives are at > > http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the > > subscription > > manager: > > <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> > > > > > > ===== > Carsten Klein > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 100MB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: > http://mail.yahoo.de > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an > initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> > > The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe from this list use the subscription > manager: <http://www.oasis-open.org/mlmanage/index.php> >
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