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Re: What is the rule for parsing XML in a namespace insideHTML

• To: Joshua Allen <joshuaa@m...>
• Subject: Re: What is the rule for parsing XML in a namespace insideHTML?
• From: Danny Ayers <danny666@v...>
• Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:56:01 +0200
• Cc: danny@d..., Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@g...>, xml-dev@l...
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Joshua Allen wrote:

>>as fairly straightforward XML document markup it
>>seems perfectly reasonable. Even with XML+XSLT+CSS we're dependent on
>>    
>>
If I may finish the sentence ;-)
Even with XML+XSLT+CSS we're dependent on the rendering engine that gets 
the transformed/styled end result, still really in the same boat as with 
HTML alone.

>
>Now this I disagree with.  HTML is a mess.  Some tags are semantic, some
>tags are presentation-only.  It is all jumbled together.  It's a very
>poor vocabulary, and should be hidden from all but web page designers.
>The actual data files should be written using a specific vocabulary with
>well-defined vocabularies.
>  
>

But the point I was trying to make here is that once you have 
XML+XSLT+CSS you still have to give the browser something to work with - 
you can apply CSS directly to arbitrary XML, sure, but where did all the 
link anchors go? Ok, let's have the data in a specific, vocabulary with 
well-defined semantics. You're going to transform with XSLT to *what* 
exactly?

Dare also misses this point later in the thread - it's ok arbitrarily 
calling XSLT on XHTML screenscraping and talking of the application of 
XSLT+XSLT+CSS to RSS as if it were some kind of noble data 
interpretation, but where there's data intended for human consumption at 
the end of the pipeline there's going to a renderer. Usually a HTML 
renderer.

Cheers,
Danny.

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