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RE: Re: Can A Web Site Be Reliably Defended Against DoS Attac

• To: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Subject: RE: Re: Can A Web Site Be Reliably Defended Against DoS Attacks?
• From: roger.day@g...
• Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 16:59:29 +0000
• Cc: jcowan@r..., "'Michael Champion'" <mc@x...>, "'roger.day@g...'" <roger.day@g...>, "'XML DEV'" <xml-dev@l...>

The Saturn V built on the redstone and mercury programs, both of which had
"issues", particularly redstone. By the time the Saturn V was launched, the
technology was, uh,  "stable".

Maybe the next rev of the web will be as reliable as the Saturn - although
that hasn't a completely stainless rep with one ground fire and one mission
almost a failure - but I'm not holding my breath. The web will never be a
complete project - it's still evolving, with IP6 on it's way - and it will
never be flawless. I think that's the nature of the beast.



                                                                                                                                       
                      "Bullard, Claude                                                                                                 
                      L (Len)"                 To:       "'roger.day@g...'" <roger.day@g...>,              
                      <clbullar@i...         jcowan@r...                                                               
                      m>                       cc:       "'Michael Champion'" <mc@x...>, "'XML DEV'" <xml-dev@l...>    
                                               Subject:  RE:  Re: Can A Web Site Be Reliably Defended Against DoS             
                      05/02/2004 16:10          Attacks?                                                                               
                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                       




Yes.  But the solution has to be understood as required
and not gold plating and the customer has to understand the
difference.  I disagree that a big project has to work that
way.  No Saturn V ever failed in flight.  A lot of V2s did
and two Shuttles because in the first case, the technology
was being invented, and in the second case, the costs got
cut even as the mission creep did its dirty work to keep
the project funded.

But you're right. That is my job:  to sit in a crow's nest
and try to stay alert.  D*mm.

len


From: roger.day@g... [mailto:roger.day@g...]

"the web was fielded witlessly" - ach, engineers always want to gold-plate
everything (somewhat like the military) and when something wasn't gold
plated, it's always "film at 11".

I don't think the web could have been fielded in any other way. This is the
way these big projects work. Chaos and problems, and the end result is
always 80/20. The projects that do reach 100 are in museums before the next
gen is out.

I remember the attempts at interactive TV by commercial outfits before the
web. Laughable. I think it needed the moonshine for the web to get a
kickstart. The problems? Hey, that's why you're employed, isn't it?

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