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Re: Schema fragments for everyday stuff

• To: jcowan@r...
• Subject: Re: Schema fragments for everyday stuff
• From: Jonathan Borden <jonathan@o...>
• Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 23:58:53 -0500
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <20040130223316.GF302@s...>
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On Jan 30, 2004, at 5:33 PM, jcowan@r... wrote:

> Jonathan Borden scripsit:
>
>>    <person.name>
>>        <given>John</given>
>>        <given>William</given>
>>        <family>Smith</family>
>>         <suffix>Jr.</suffix>
>>    </person.name>
>
> The components of person.name given by your schema are given, middle,
> family, prefix, and suffix.  How do you map names like "Abu Ali 
> al-Husain
> ibn Abdallah ibn Sina" (alias "Avicenna"), or "Karen Ingridsdottir",
> where "Ingridsdottir" is *not* a family name?

good question! as far as I am concerned, if all the name components are 
<given> that is not a problem. I don't know enough about those names to 
mark them up.

> Is "Suharto" a given name?

Again, I have no idea. Indeed I cannot guarantee that this schema 
fragment actually can represent all sorts of names, only that no one 
showed up at the many meetings to complain that the mechanism wasn't a 
good one :-) that's how standards work -- show up at the meeting and 
you get a voice.

> And do components appear in display order, as it appears here, and if 
> so,

Yes. (I am glad I can answer at least one of your questions :-) Of 
course you are always free to XSLT to your hearts content if "Yes" 
isn't the right answer.

> how do you determine what the sort order is ("Smith, John William" for
> John, "Karen Ingridsdottir" for Karen, and who-knows-what for 
> Avicenna)?

I've not considered "sort order" (not in our requirements doc :-)

>
> These are serious questions, not sarcasm.
>
Oh I have come to realize a long time ago that something as seemingly 
simple as "names" are actually very complicated once the surface is 
scratched. 80/20 works great when there is a dictator who decides what 
falls on each side.

Jonathan

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