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"Bullard, Claude L (Len)" wrote:
> 
> From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@b...]
> 
> >> But is already referenced in an RFP sitting on my desk
> >> as we speak and it is older than a few weeks.  The antecedents
> >> have been around for three years at least.
> 
> >Yes - that's an issue that we discussed 2 weeks ago in San Diego at the
> >DOJ IWG (Industry Working Group) meeting. The discussions are underway
> >with the proper folks, and hopefully some clarity will emerge in the
> >future.
> 
> And the proper folks would be?  

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Kind Regards,
Joe Chiusano
Booz | Allen | Hamilton
Strategy and Technology Consultants to the World

How many of the people at these
> meetings are public safety vendor representatives, as in, the
> people who bid, implement, and maintain these systems for the
> public safety agencies vs. the people who consult, fund grants,
> and manage Federal programs for creating specifications and
> standards?  I am familiar with the different states and agencies
> such as LASD and San Diego that want to implement this.  I
> am also aware that they are having distinct problems finding
> vendors who can reliably provide it.  Design for the BigBuyer
> is suicide if it can't really scale down into the Tier 2
> and Tier 3 markets.  That is the fundamental problem.
> 
> Fact:  this stuff is about three to five years ahead of its
> market.  The public safety industry is about eight years
> behind the cutting edge and the public safety market is a
> late adopter market.  The very real danger for DoJ XML
> efforts is like CALS IETMs, in that gap from initiative
> to fielding, the relentless standardization committee
> efforts will create overbuilt products which both
> customer and industry will reject at the point of
> procurement because they don't meet the immediate and
> short to medium term needs.  IOW, they are white elephants
> at point of sale and collapse into the smaller more
> focused and adaptible designs.
> 
> How long has NIBRS been around and what is its degree
> and rate of penetration into the states?  IOW, how
> many agencies are still UCR?
> 
> >Yes - extensions are another issue that we discussed in San Diego. I
> >anticipate that more clarity will emerge on this in the future.
> 
> They will emerge from the agencies that buy the systems.
> 
> >Lastly, I should mention that I also sit on a steering committee (since
> >late 2003) that oversees the Justice XML initiatives (I don't get into
> >the fine points of the schema techniques and design, but rather the
> >general direction and issues such as extension metholodologies, etc.).
> 
> Go for it.  This is a CALS redux.   That isn't a critique; it is
> an admonition about expectations and mission drift.
> 
> >Please feel free to provide any feedback that you'd like to me on
> >GJXDD/M and I would be happy to see that it's justly considered.
> 
> Thanks!  Just understand the problem of changing the wheels on
> a moving car at an intersection.   XML is being implemented for
> public safety quickly, but the web technologies themselves are
> a barrier to doing that reliably, securely, and safely.  The
> platform matters.
> 
> len

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