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Re: RDDL(2): new version up


rddl 2 rdf
On Sun, 2004-01-18 at 20:46, Jonathan Borden wrote:
> I've posted a new version of RDDL (2.0) at http://www.rddl.org/
> 
> Changes:
> 
> -This version uses Tim Bray's non-XLink syntax which the TAG seems to 
> be solidifying on, and for which I haven't heard any opposition to for 
> at least 6 months. i.e..

Sorry, I am not following the TAG any longer and had totally missed this
proposal.

> 	<a rddl:nature="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
> 		rddl:purpose="..."
> 		href="foo.html">Example</a>

I feel uneasy with this syntax that seems broken to me.

When I write:

<rddl:resource id="xsd-schema"
xlink:arcrole="http://www.rddl.org/purposes#schema-validation"
xlink:role="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xlink:title="W3C XML
Schema for examplotron" xlink:href="examplotron.xsd" xlink:type="simple"
xlink:show="none" xlink:embed="none">
<div class="resource">
  <h4>W3C XML Schema for examplotron</h4>
  <p>This W3C XML Schema (Proposed Recommendation, 16 March 2001) <a href="examplotron.xsd">schema</a> describes the examplotron vocabulary and can be imported in W3C XML Schema to validate examplotron schemas.</p>
</div>
</rddl:resource>

I define a link between the rddl:resource fragment (ie the full
description of the schema) and the schema.

With the new syntax, if I write:

<div class="resource">
  <h4>W3C XML Schema for examplotron</h4>
  <p>This W3C XML Schema (Proposed Recommendation, 16 March 2001) <a href="examplotron.xsd" rddl:nature="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" rddl:purpose="http://www.rddl.org/purposes#schema-validation">schema</a> describes the examplotron vocabulary and can be imported in W3C XML Schema to validate examplotron schemas.</p>
</div>

I get a link between the <a/> element and the schema which is
significantly poorer than the previous one (in this example, the content
of the <a/> element is almost useless). And I can't embed the whole
definition in my link because 1) the content model of the <a/> element
doesn't allow it, b) it would be displayed as a ugly long link. 

> - The syntax *is* simpler which is a Very Good Thing
> - XLink does not appear to have achieved traction
> - Because the syntax is substantially changed I've bumped the Version 
> number up to 2.0 --- perhaps we ought use a different *namespace name* 
> e.g. http://www.rddl.org/rddl2# -- let's hear discussion on this.

Hmmm... that means that right now, all the existing RDDL documents have
a URI which describes a totally different vocabulary! That doesn't seem
right either.

Eric

> - A new DTD,  RELAXNG schema and RDDL->RDF XSLT are referenced in the 
> http://www.rddl.org/ document (which serves as its own "Hello World" 
> example)
> -This version contains relatively minor edits from the version on Tim's 
> site (called rddl4)
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
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