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RE: ISO turns evil?

• To: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
• Subject: RE: ISO turns evil?
• From: Rick Marshall <rjm@z...>
• Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 07:42:57 +1000
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <15725CF6AFE2F34DB8A5B4770B7334EE03F9ECC2@h...>
• Organization: Zenucom Pty Limited
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• Reply-to: rjm@z...

On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 07:17, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
<snip/>
> Yes, although scoped.  We do tolerate different electrical systems 
> internationally, and different air worthiness standards (Fly AeroFlot 
> or whatever that is today).  Scope matters.   ISO is international.
> 
the standards in australia and the usa might be different, but if you
work in one of those countries you must work to the local standard. just
saying i'm from .... isn't an excuse for failing to follow local
standards

> >so while i don't think the iso policy will worry me much, on further
> >reflection i strongly agree that this is both bad policy and principle
> 
> And bizarre timing.  I can't fathom why now and why that.
> 
> len
> 
> On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 01:55, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> > That sounds good but is not realistic.  Yes, we can just-in-time 
> > download codelists and initialize the dropdowns, but that incurs 
> > overhead and availability problems.  Also, is a cache an illegal 
> > copy? Relationships built with code listed values also have to 
> > be tested.  How many copies constitutes 'fair use' or 'fair dealing' 
> > (these aren't the same)?
> > 
> > The other side of the coin in defense of ISO is how should they go 
> > about supporting their work?  The problem of the commons is who 
> > pays the cost of maintaining the commons?  Should the government 
> > members pay dues as is done by commercial consortia?
> > 
> > We may be staring into the beginning of the process through which 
> > ISO creates or accepts a new role in the domain of standards 
> > developement and maintenance support.  Anyone care to comment on 
> > what they think that role should be and how it would be supported?
> > 
> > len
> > 
> > 
> > From: Rick Marshall [mailto:rjm@z...]
> > 
> > i think if you read the messages carefully this shouldn't really affect
> > anyone
> > 
> > the message seems to say that if you want include the codes in a
> > commercial product you have to pay
> > 
> > if you want to advise your customers about where they can download the
> > codes for use, then noone pays
> > 
> > a nuisance, but it would affect say oracle who wants to value add their
> > product with the codes, but not me because i'll just show my clients how
> > to download the codes.

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