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  • Subject: RE: reaching humans (was Re: Extract A Subset of a W3C XML Schema?)
  • From: <Patrick.Garvey@t...>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 16:19:32 -0700
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  • Thread-topic: reaching humans (was Re: Extract A Subset of a W3C XML Schema?)

RE:  reaching humans (was Re:  Extract A Subset of a W
Perverse is a very strong term to use.

markup is also cool for separating data and processes that act on that data. yes, it's pretty heavyweight and there's all kinds of more lightweight data interchange formats, but XML has got all this inertia behind it and really great toolsets. Otright disparaging the use of markup for purely machine communication can't be mainstream either. As long as you can pay someone (or get paid for) debugging a bunch of <UDWhatever_22> tags, then fine -- you get to use all the fancy APIs. Why is this bad? Purely maintenance, IMHO.

Patrick

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@s...]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 4:06 PM
To: xml-dev@l...
Subject:  reaching humans (was Re:  Extract A Subset
of a W3C XML Schema?)


james.anderson@s... (james anderson) writes:
>on the other hand, i can't put my finger on the last time i seriously
>tried to interpret a stack trace without a symbol table. or rather
>without some machine doing the interpretation for me. and even in the
>days when i had to, it never would have occurred to me to expect to
>find my comments in the machine code.

I think markup's a completely different kind of toolset, with virtues
you don't appear to value.  

Markup is capable of reaching people who'll never need or want to go
anywhere near a stack trace.  It's built that way explicitly, at a
pretty high cost.  Throwing away those features while working with XML
seems perverse at best.

-- 
Simon St.Laurent
Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets
Errors, errors, all fall down!
http://simonstl.com -- http://monasticxml.org

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