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Re: DTDs: Teilite vs. Sdocbook

• To: Tim Bray <tbray@t...>
• Subject: Re: DTDs: Teilite vs. Sdocbook
• From: Jonathan Robie <jonathan.robie@d...>
• Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:14:54 -0400
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At 09:38 AM 7/30/2003, Tim Bray wrote:

>They're both awfully big.  How about XHTML?  Has most of what you need for 
>office-document apps.  -Tim

XHTML is 977 lines.
SDOCBOOK.DTD is about 1550 lines once you strip out the comments.
TEILITE is about 2000 lines once you strip out the comments.

XHTML also lacks support for some basic types like information about the 
author, publication date, etc. I am also going to need to be able to put in 
bibliographies. That's easily added.

I really want support for basic document hierarchies, which XHTML is not 
really designed for. I could useful structure if I modified my local XHTML 
DTD so that H1-H6 could only be used together with DIV elements like this:

   <div>
       <h1>Hierarchy is good.</h1>
       <p>Boy, do I miss 'section' elements when I use XHTML.</p>
       <div>
              <h2>Nested hierarchy is great</h2>
              <p>But a browser can read this as is.</p>
       </div>
   <div>

Starting with XHTML, I would have something that browsers know how to 
display, except for any tags I add. That's good. I would have a DTD that is 
somewhat simpler, but there's a lot of formatting-oriented stuff in what's 
there. I guess I can just ignore that stuff.

On the other hand, I generally do want the title and author information to 
display nicely, and I want to be able to generate a table of contents, 
which means I'm doing stylesheets anyway. And if I start from Docbook, I 
can use someone else's stylesheets as a starting point, and choose from 
among many....

Jonathan 

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