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RE: Good Times Ahead for "Sharecroppers"? (Was: [OT] Tim Bray


sharecroppers success
i'm sorry len, but i couldn't disagree more

ms put a lot of effort into corrupting so many early efforts (remember
msn was going to be the real computer network, not the current
internet?, c# will replace java because it runs so well on every
computer (sic), .net is all i need to rule the world, etc) and really
"gave in" to the standards efforts and the success of the open and
simple ethernet and tcp/ip protocols and standards.

in fact the internet's success is really the success of non-proprietary
efforts, especially the rfc's - yes ms contributed, but so did lots of
others.

bit then that's why this is such a healthy list, we've all got opinions
and prejudices and in that mix somewhere is a good result for all.

rick

On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 08:13, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:
> I dunno.  A lot of money went down the ratholes of interoperating 
> heterogeneous systems.   MS has done a lot to make that work at 
> the levels where anyone can sign on as long as they understand 
> what they sign up for, or even if they don't.  As far as I 
> can tell, they have to spend a lot of effort fixing the mistakes 
> of the original web designers who programmed well but understood 
> little of the world they were programming for.   If people bought 
> cars the way folks here want people to buy into the world wide 
> web, one would need a degree in automotive engineering to go to 
> the local food market instead of just a checkbook.  Some think MS, 
> IBM, and so on a plague.  I think of them as John Deere. I 
> farm; I don't build tractors.  They don't grow wheat.
> 
> With ease came the embrace.  That 'browser' is still inside an 
> operating system providing it services.  For those of you who 
> saw LEG last weekend, it's OK to approach Mina; don't tempt her.
> Dorian was certainly the poorer for doing that, but the rest 
> made out just fine by working with her and understanding her 
> nature.
> 
> len
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Marshall [mailto:rjm@z...]
> 
> which is why farmers worship at the temple monsanto.....
> 
> in case you forget this is not the only industry plagued by a large,
> aggressive, monopolistic player
> 
> and personally i think we are poorer for it
> 
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