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Re: Ten new XQuery, XSLT 2.0 and XPath 2.0 Working

• To: AndrewWatt2000@a...
• Subject: Re: Ten new XQuery, XSLT 2.0 and XPath 2.0 Working
• From: Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@f...>
• Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 07:35:44 -0600
• Cc: elharo@m..., xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: Message from AndrewWatt2000@a... of "Thu, 08 May 2003 08:34:26 EDT." <142.10fe655f.2beba8d2@a...>
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> In a message dated 08/05/2003 13:16:29 GMT Daylight Time, 
> elharo@m... writes:
> 
> 
> > >There are plenty of areas in these specs that would really benefit from
> > >detailed review and feedback, but saying "I think I could design a
> > >better language" is not helpful at this stage.
> > 
> > Unless of course you do design a better language. I think RELAX NG 
> > and JDOM are proofs by example that when a W3C spec goes off the 
> > rails others can and will create better replacements.  I suspect this 
> > will happen with XSLT 2 as well as the implementers of XSLT 1 who've 
> > given up in disgust on XSLT 2 and XPath 2 begin to look for something 
> > interesting to do.
> 
> Elliotte,
> 
> I would be interested to hear more detail of what, specifically, you think 
> has gone wrong with XQuery / XSLT 2.0 / XPath 2.0.

You're not possible serious, are you?  Have you been on this list at all?  
Flame wars on just this topic have emerged at least every other month, and one 
a low burn is in process right now.  There are lots of specifics in all the 
exchanges, which are all archived.


> The phrase "given up in disgust" doesn't really convey much detail of what 
> the stumbling blocks are perceived to be and what solutions might be 
> appropriate (and what solutions might be possible).
> 
> Which XSLT 1.0 implementers have actually given up?

I am one.  I know of others, but I'll let them speak for themselves.  A hint 
is that several of us are hanging out on the XPath NG mailing list.


-- 
Uche Ogbuji                                    Fourthought, Inc.
http://uche.ogbuji.net    http://4Suite.org    http://fourthought.com
Is XQuery an omni-tool? - http://www.adtmag.com/article.asp?id=7620
Gems From the [Python/XML] Archives - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/04/09/py-xm
l.html
Introducing N-Triples - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-thi
nk17/index.html
EXSLT by example - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-exslt.html

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