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On Wed, 7 May 2003 22:17:28 +0100, Michael Kay <michael.h.kay@n...> wrote: > > There are plenty of areas in these specs that would really benefit from > detailed review and feedback, but saying "I think I could design a > better language" is not helpful at this stage. Right. But how about "I don't want to have to deal with all 40-odd XSDL types in my implementation, please change the Basic conformance level"? That seems to this outsider like a constructive suggestion, especially given the widespread, uhh, shall we say "lack of enthusiasm" for the XSDL type system (that Amy so brilliantly expounds upon). Also, [definitely not wearing my Day Job hat, Dr. Kay gets paid to think about XPath/Xquery for our employer!] "alternative futures that we would prefer" is EXACTLY the question that the W3C Powers that Be are supposed to wrestle with before issuing a Recommendation, and they need input from the community as to whether a draft spec fits their needs or not. The Powers that Be don't pay attention to comments that a WG didn't have a chance to consider. So, bottom line, for better or worse, if one wants TimBL and the TAG to listen to a fundamental criticism about a spec, "unconstructive" though it may be, one must annoy the WG on their comments list and be prepared for a "we considered and rejected your suggestion" response, and then refuse to accept the "resolution" so that the issue must be tracked all the way to the Director so that he can review it before approving the Proposed Recommendation. [Someone correct me if I'm wrong about the process here, and it may be only W3C members that get to "lie down in the road" like this.] This little dance is no fun for the chairs, editors, etc. but actually quite enlightening in the long run. But [now I'm definitely not wearing my Web Services Architecture hat!] witness my correpondence on www-ws-arch over the last year with Mark Baker, who makes it very clear that his objective is to see that our WG never gets to Recommendation status with anything that blesses current industry practice; as much as that sometimes drives me crazy, it's also been extremely educational and has forced the WG to come to grips with what the critics are saying ).
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