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Re: XML+CSS, DENG (was: Re: InfoPath, OpenOffice, XF

• To: "Elliotte Rusty Harold" <elharo@m...>
• Subject: Re: XML+CSS, DENG (was: Re: InfoPath, OpenOffice, XForms (Was: Low-end Office 1 1won't do user schemas)
• From: "Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer" <schnitz@m...>
• Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:38:23 +0200
• Cc: <xml-dev@l...>
• References: <E0934FFEF848EA46AB416E7B9581457D01BF3B9B@c... nt.com> <13dc01c30533$f0947d00$fc45a8c0@c020> <p04330101bac516071a5a@[192.168.254.4]>

> >Doug and Elliotte, don't you have Mozilla and/or Opera available next
> >to IE on your machines?
> >
> 
> Sure, but I'm damned if I'm going to open that browser just because 
> the site doesn't display in the browser I'm using right now. And 
> Flash doesn't work on IE all the time. I routinely see IE with broken 
> or out of date Flash installations, if they have it at all. I'm not 
> going to serve any site I can serve in plain vanilla HTML in anything 
> else.

That's fine. Frank was complaining about the poor IE CSS 
implementation, and I started this primarily by enforcing his
point and saying, "we even managed to write an XML+CSS
implementation that this better than IE in 25k flash 
actionscript". I didn't imply that I've solved all the world's
problems.

Coming to your point, I'd agree that if you want to reach
the most people you can over the web without any prior
knowledge, you'd better stick to something like XHTML
Basic.

I'm thinking more of hotspots on the web, semantic
islands, e.g. a forum, with a heavy bi-directional 
communication aspect, e.g. where you initially sign up,
make a conscious decision, where preserving content in its 
semantics instead of plain text offers significant advantages,
the barrier is significantly lowered if you can offer 
"use Flash in WinIE or Mozilla/Netscape or Opera".

But, nevermind, I know that this is the temple of
criticism, and on other parts of the web people say "thank
you for increasing my options" [1]... :-)

- Sebastian

[1] http://www.onrelease.org/?cat=13

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  • Re: XML+CSS, DENG (was: Re: InfoPath, OpenOffice, XForms (Was: Low-end Office 1 1won't do user schemas)
    • From: "Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer" <schnitz@m...>
  • Re: XML+CSS, DENG (was: Re: InfoPath,OpenOffice, XForms (Was: Low-end Office 1 1won't do user schemas)
    • From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@m...>

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