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Re: Doing Web services right

• To: Mike Champion <mc@x...>, XML DEV <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: Re: Doing Web services right
• From: Elliotte Rusty Harold <elharo@m...>
• Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:51:51 -0500
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At 9:11 PM -0500 3/11/03, Mike Champion wrote:

>That is the REST dogma, and I buy it as far as the synergy between 
>HTML links and HTTP GET is concerned.  GETing a "representation" 
>from a URI is clearly the proven way to reference information in a 
>scalable manner. But I still haven't seen a compelling analysis that 
>real, sucessful Web sites adhere to REST when it comes to HTML forms 
>and HTTP POST, i.e. linking to those back-end applications that do 
>things in the real world as opposed to moving representations around 
>the Web.

I suppose what we should do is develop a list of successful sites, 
and then characterize their web architectures. Might make an 
interesting project.

I do note that anecdotally Amazon is pretty restful and seems 
successful. I'm also spending a lot of time in Neomail lately, and 
it's non-RESTtful abuse of POST cause major user interface problems. 
Here are a few other sites out there that qualify as successful:

1. Hotmail
2. Google
3. Babelfish.altavista.com
4. Maps.yahoo.com
5. Wall Street Journal
6. shopper.cnet.com
7. Blogger
8. store.apple.com
9. www.dell.com
10. Sourceforge.net

I suspect people can add to this list. Off the top of my head I don't know how
RESTful these sites are. The only one I use regularly is Google. 
Anyone feel like taking a serious look and categorizing them by CGI 
type?
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