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RE: FW: ezmlm warning

• To: "Don Park" <donpark@d...>,"Xml-Dev" <xml-dev@l...>
• Subject: RE: FW: ezmlm warning
• From: "Mike Fitzgerald" <mike@w...>
• Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:33:41 -0800
• Importance: Normal
• In-reply-to: <001801c2eb41$85afd590$8b01a8c0@rainbow>

I wonder why it won't remove Stephane Bansard...

>Ce message n'a pu etre achemine au
>destinataire suivant : Bansard Stephane
>en raison des difficultes liees a son courrier
>electronique a l'Universite de Montreal.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Park [mailto:donpark@d...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 2:24 PM
> To: Xml-Dev
> Subject:  FW: ezmlm warning
> 
> 
> This is just an example of what is wrong with the mailing list 
> program.  My
> ISP bounced two messages bounced in the recent past, two out of probably
> hundreds successfully sent before and after those bounces.  My ISP was
> probably going through maintenance or something small crisis like 
> most small
> ISPs do.
> 
> Yet ezmlm is threatening to remove me from the list if a single probe it
> sends bounces.  Chances are the probe will not bounce, but if it 
> does, I am
> going to get unsubscribed 'without further notice'.  More 
> reasonable policy
> would be to monitor for a week and deal only with those that consistently
> bounce.  It is unreasonable for ezmlm to expect 100% uptime from 
> my ISP nor
> is its warning helpful at all since there is nothing I can do about it.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Don Park
> Docuverse
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: xml-dev-help@l... [mailto:xml-dev-help@l...] 
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 1:27 PM
> To: donpark@d...
> Subject: ezmlm warning
> 
> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
> xml-dev@l... mailing list.
> 
> I'm working for my owner, who can be reached
> at xml-dev-owner@l....
> 
> 
> Messages to you from the xml-dev mailing list seem to
> have been bouncing. I've attached a copy of the first bounce
> message I received.
> 
> If this message bounces too, I will send you a probe. If the 
> probe bounces,
> I will remove your address from the xml-dev mailing list,
> without further notice.
> 
> 
> I've kept a list of which messages from the xml-dev mailing list have 
> bounced from your address.
> 
> Copies of these messages may be in the archive.
> 
> To retrieve a set of messages 123-145 (a maximum of 100 per request),
> send an empty message to:
>    <xml-dev-get.123_145@l...>
> 
> To receive a subject and author list for the last 100 or so messages,
> send an empty message to:
>    <xml-dev-index@l...>
> 
> Here are the message numbers:
> 
>    21059
>    21060
> 
> --- Enclosed is a copy of the bounce message I received.
> 
> Return-Path: <>
> Received: (qmail 9222 invoked by uid 60881); 4 Mar 2003 05:19:51 -0000
> Received: from  by hermes by uid 0 with qmail-scanner-1.15 
>  (spamassassin: 2.43.  Clear:SA:0(-1.5/8.0):. 
>  Processed in 0.309863 secs); 04 Mar 2003 05:19:51 -0000
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=8.0
> Received: from unknown (HELO pyramid-02.kattare.com) (206.163.128.3)
>   by mail.oasis-open.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 05:19:50 -0000
> Received: from localhost (localhost)
> 	by pyramid-02.kattare.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) id h245QQ9f025251;
> 	Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@p...>
> Message-Id: <200303040526.h245QQ9f025251@p...>
> To: <xml-dev-return-21059-donpark=docuverse.com@l...>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> 	boundary="h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com"
> Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details
> Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)
> 
> This is a MIME-encapsulated message
> 
> --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com
> 
> The original message was received at Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800
> from [209.202.168.102]
> 
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <donpark@d...>
>     (reason: 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied)
> 
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to mail.kattare.com.:
> >>> DATA
> <<< 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... Relaying denied
> 550 5.1.1 <donpark@d...>... User unknown
> <<< 503 5.0.0 Need RCPT (recipient)
> 
> --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com
> Content-Type: message/delivery-status
> 
> Reporting-MTA: dns; pyramid-02.kattare.com
> Arrival-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800
> 
> Final-Recipient: RFC822; donpark@d...
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.7.1
> Remote-MTA: DNS; mail.kattare.com
> Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.7.1 <donpark@d...>... 
> Relaying denied
> Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:26 -0800
> 
> --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com
> Content-Type: text/rfc822-headers
> 
> Return-Path: <xml-dev-return-21059-donpark=docuverse.com@l...>
> Received: from mail.oasis-open.org ([209.202.168.102])
> 	by pyramid-02.kattare.com (8.12.8/8.12.3) with SMTP id
> h245QObK025243
> 	for <donpark@d...>; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:26:24 -0800
> Received: (qmail 8243 invoked by uid 60909); 4 Mar 2003 05:18:44 -0000
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> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 21:29:48 -0800
> From: Michael Brennan <mpbrennan@e...>
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> X-MailScanner: Found to be clean
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> 	BAYES_10, KNOWN_MAILING_LIST, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL)
> 
> --h245QQ9f025251.1046755586/pyramid-02.kattare.com--
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