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Wunderbar! Two nicely contrary points of view that somehow converge. Gavin Nicol: "That's the whole point though. I don't see interoperability coming only from common syntax, nor from a single infoset. Application/software level interoperability can only happen through standardization within a given application domain.... it's outside the scope of the efforts of the W3C." Mike Champion: "Users of XML tools building documents they expect to send via SOAP, or building SOAP envelopes for their XML documents/data "by hand" might need tools that enforce the SOAP subset so that some downstream SOAP processor doesn't reject them." I don't see interoperability coming from any one source either. Yet I see improvements or alternatives that can make improvements overall. Tools to help the SOAP builder, a reduction in the exposure to some side effects of entities, a better layering where parsing and validation are cleanly separated, then the potential to put all "datatyping/schematizing" languages on an equal footing vis a vis well-formed instances would all be improvements we could share. Mike concludes: "I think XML-SW would be a Good Thing for almost everyone including the Web services people, although it might cause a bit of discomfort to align with it." and Gavin concludes: "The standardization efforts within a given domain might well normatively define themselves in terms of the syntax and infoset defined elsewhere..." I agree. If everyone believes they can all gain even with some pain, and that pain is reasonably equally shared, that is a basis for a consensus on a normative subset of XML. XML-SW is as close as any proposal I've seen put forward that gets the most benefits for the best sharing of the pain of the implementation. I would think it in the best interests of the W3C and the XML community to start there. len
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