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 XML-dev: I'm only on the digest of xml-dev, and don't always read it, but have heard through the grapevine that there was some discussion on this topic. OASIS will be rolling out a software application from Kavi that provides functionality for our TCs, including membership roster management, mail lists, scheduling, balloting, action items, etc. As part of the transitioning from our current mail lists to those run through the Kavi system I'm doing some consistency checking of TC information such as charters, IPR declarations, etc. before I move the information to the new system. As part of this consistency checking I'm being reminded that a number of our TCs are using their public comment lists for public discussion. The OASIS TC Process specifies that each TC be provided with a mail list for the purpose of accepting public comment on the work of the TC, but that that list is not to be used for discussion. (See http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/process.shtml#visibility) Where with our current mail lists the enforcement of this was up to the TC chair, with Kavi we will be able to have this enforced by the system. I followed up with the chairs of a couple of our TCs where the level of public discussion has been a problem and suggested that they begin moving their discussions from the comment list to the private TC members lists. Granted, this will have the effect of making it more difficult for non OASIS members to participate in the work of the TC, but this is what is required by our process. OASIS goes to great lengths to ensure that anyone who is interested in the work of our TCs to participate to some extent, either by joining OASIS and the TC or by reading the publicly viewable archives and web pages and sending comments to the TCs. (I'm not aware of any other standards organizations that are so open.) Nothing at OASIS is done behind closed doors, but we must also require that the members of the TC who are doing the technical work and making the decisions are members of OASIS; to do otherwise would diminish the value of membership in the consortium, and as it is the members of the consortium who provide the resources to support this work through the payment of their membership dues it is not fair to them that other, non-paying participants would have the same rights. So, in summary, there is absolutely no change of policy here, just the new ability to use a system to enforce what previosuly we left up to the chairs to enforce. -Karl >>> Subject: >>> Re: KAVI >>> From: >>> "Chiusano Joseph" <chiusano_joseph@b...> >>> Date: >>> Fri, 07 Feb 2003 09:41:32 -0500 >>> To: >>> "Bullard Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...> >>> >>> >>>Thanks - without seeing the note you refer to I would not be equipped to >>>comment further. >>> >>>"Bullard, Claude L (Len)" wrote: >>> >>>>A note from a chair of a list I participate on. >>>>One side effect is to limit the participation of >>>>non-OASIS members regardless of their depth of >>>>participation or contribution. That can be a >>>>serious handicap to the niche efforts. It >>>>would be sad to see the innovations that are >>>>born of research and experimentation have to >>>>move to Yahoo. >>>> >>>>I understand the difficulties of constraining >>>>open lists. I also understand the advantages. >>>>Far too often what has initially looked like >>>>yet another lunatic-fringe element has proven >>>>to be a seminal and important source of ideas >>>>even where they are in conflict with the immediate >>>>goals of the corporate membership. >>>> >>>>len >>>> >>>>From: Chiusano Joseph [mailto:chiusano_joseph@b...] >>>> >>>><Snip> >>>>It seems there is >>>>some push to restrict discussion on the comments >>>>lists and to move serious discussion to the >>>>restricted discussion lists. >>>></Snip> >>>> >>>>Can you please elaborate more as to why you feel this way? >>>> >>>> ================================================================= Karl F. Best Vice President, OASIS +1 978.667.5115 x206 karl.best@o... http://www.oasis-open.org  |
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