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Dare said: > If people spent as much times giving feedback to W3C working groups as > they spent angrily and impotently railing on XML-DEV maybe some progress > would be made. But quite honestly, many of us are not W3C members [we don't have 50K to pony up for membership], and non-members are clearly not as welcome to participate in W3C processes [You can argue against this statement all you want, I know it for truth, having been on both sides of that coin. Also, note that I said "as welcome", so as to not imply that we are unwelcome, just that we aren't as easily invited in...]. At least what we discuss here gets feedback, the same cannot necessarily be said of those publicly available W3C mailing lists. The same cannot be said for member-only lists, where there is often plenty of feedback and discussion. I also know how difficult it is to get feedback even directly communicating with WG members. Many are volunteers from sponsoring organizations, and don't have enough time to respond to individual comments made, especially by non-WG folks. Also, there are folks here who are WG members, and who do listen. So the railing is not totally useless. I've seen many cases in the last two months where a good point was made, and eventually acknowledges and forwarded on to the appropriate WG. I just wish that the discussion was a little more professional. There are some days when I want to reach out and slap the collective lot of posters who repeatedly act like children. There are polite and impolite ways to argue and disagree, and I wish that we could all take the former path. Keith Engineering is what happens when science and mathematics meet politics. Products are what happens when all three meet reality.
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