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• To: Jeff Lowery <jlowery@s...>
• Subject: Re: [ANN] "Future of Software and Databases" NetSeminar (December 3)
• From: Uche Ogbuji <uche.ogbuji@f...>
• Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:05:51 -0700
• Cc: Mike Champion <mc@x...>, xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: Message from Jeff Lowery <jlowery@s...> of "Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:24:57 PDT." <D60D8F448216D611A21A00508B62B5BC5DEF@e...>
• Sender: uche.ogbuji@f...

> > This 
> > doesn't prevent the 
> > frequent crusader from coming by here in the hope that they 
> > can troll this 
> > group to death.  Such is life. 
> 
> Personally, I'm extremely hesitant to slap a label on somebody and disregard
> their posts. I think Steve McConnell states this attitude as "Don't flip the
> Bozo switch!", meaning that it's easy to disregard somebody as incapable of
> learning when in fact they may just be immature, ignorant, inarticulate, or
> just plain antisocial. Doesn't mean they can't contribute insight or even
> occasional constructive criticism now and then.

Fair admonition.  I do want to clarify that it was more Mike's mention of 
Fabian Pascal than anything else that prompted my response.  I wasn't really 
calling anyone in particular a troll, not even Mr. Blanchard, because I 
haven't read enough of his more contentious threads to make that judgment.  
The DTD thing did raise my eyebrows, but just being wrong doesn't make one a 
troll.


> There are Trolls, and then there are those who are just trollish.
> Trollishness you can outgrow and overcome. Patience, time, and effort will
> often turn people's attitudes around. And then you might be thankful of the
> investment.

I think many of the regulars here originally came by with an adversarial 
mindset to XML technologies.  Fewer have come as actual trolls, but some have, 
and as I've said, they've been assimilated.  Others have come as trolls and 
have bounced off again.  No foul, really.


-- 
Uche Ogbuji                                    Fourthought, Inc.
http://uche.ogbuji.net    http://4Suite.org    http://fourthought.com
Python&XML column: 2. Introducing PyXML - http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2002/09/25/p
y.html
The Past, Present and Future of Web Services 1 - http://www.webservices.org/ind
ex.php/article/articleview/663/1/24/
The Past, Present and Future of Web Services 2 - 'http://www.webservices.org/in
dex.php/article/articleview/679/1/24/
Serenity through markup - http://adtmag.com/article.asp?id=6807
Tip: Using generators for XML processing - http://www-106.ibm.com/developerwork
s/xml/library/x-tipgenr.html

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