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 That's a little unfair, Arjun. We signed on to a W3C effort. It did get the bit between it's teeth, but no one had to shanghai it. But the names I saw there and the names I was familiar with by work experience and the pubs were pretty much the same group. The leadership was different and so were some of the goals. We have probably spent a lot of anguished emails debating the goals. All in all, I am not displeased with the results. I do think we are now a long ways past that initial slimming down of the syntax spec (the easy part, really), and pretty far into the framework weeds that made SGML just as tendentious. The biggest difference is that where once only a fairly small group of people understood the issues and could architect for them sensibly, a much larger group has a grasp of the issues if not always the history of previous attempts to solve them. Reinvention is certain, but as long as folks like yourself who have both a deep technical grasp and familiarity with the number of solutions proposed, tried, and sometimes discarded while awaiting new requirements, it seems to work. The big problem was the W3C going from specs to standards making, thus projecting a perception that things mostly proposed were really done and to be accepted as fiat. That restricts innovation even by regurgitation. Experience says the simplest approach with the clearest documentation will win the day if not the decade. But a day in the library is still worth a month in the lab. len -----Original Message----- From: Arjun Ray [mailto:aray@n...] "Didier PH Martin" <martind@n...> wrote: | And yes, [the W3C] simplified SGML. No, the W3C did not simplify SGML. SGML was simplified by the SGML comuunity. As Len once said, "every SGMLer with a modem." The W3C shanghaied the result. 
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