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RE: Shortcomings of Predicate Logic? (was RE: [xml-dev ] RDF

  • To: 'Tim Bray' <tbray@t...>
  • Subject: RE: Shortcomings of Predicate Logic? (was RE: [xml-dev ] RDF Interpretation of XML documents )
  • From: "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:53:56 -0500
  • Cc: 'Mike Champion' <mc@x...>, xml-dev@l...

predicate logic
No quarrel from me on that one.  Reading their 
list postings without a grounding in chaos 
and complexity theory is pretty much useless. 
Ever taken a look at the quantum models for 
human thought?  See the SEED site that 
Edwina Taborsky et al manage.

Still, there is baby in the bathwater.  These 
guys have better credentials for what they are 
doing than TimBL did for hypertext.  And maybe 
they will get a few more things right up front 
rather than after ten years of cherry picking 
the credentialed brains of others.  On the 
other hand, I think a lot of what they write 
is based on years of cherry picking, so maybe 
they are in need of simplifying assumptions. 

How well one can apply predicate logic tends 
to be constrained by how well one can establish 
a value as a "fact" instead of simply an assertion. 
There is something to be said for the position 
that all we get back from topic maps or the 
semantic web is opinions.

I tend to favor the computational semiotics 
approach, but possibly because I find models 
such as Ricardo Gudwin's model for evaluating 
intelligence from a computational semiotics 
perspective to be implementable, understandable, 
and amenable to XML.

It takes a lot of picking to get a simple tune 
that both sells and is original.

len

From: Tim Bray [mailto:tbray@t...]

Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote:

> "I'm attempting to approach knowledge science by first "red-shifting" the operating system.  That shift in systemic approach is first realized by conjectively shifting all data when received immediately into a convolution of the data against a sense-of-conjecture, and in so doing, literally create a scale of meaning along the one dimension of sense as a memory retrieval mechanism via ordinal position along this scale of sense.

Sounds like a bunch of BS dressed up in $10 words ("conjectively"!?!?). 
   This is the kind of stuff that has given KR a bad name.

Mind you, as TimBL points out, hypertext was getting a bad name in the 
early nineties. -Tim

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