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RE: User interface programming XUL?

• To: "Don Park" <donpark@d...>
• Subject: RE: User interface programming XUL?
• From: "Manos Batsis" <m.batsis@b...>
• Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:23:59 +0300
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• Thread-topic: User interface programming XUL?

> From: Don Park [mailto:donpark@d...] 

> XUL's <window> element have 'screenX' and 'screenY' attributes for
> specifying location on screen.  XUL's other 'root element' 
> <dialog> may
> or may not support them although they seem to be available for use in
> 'persist' attribute.

The problem is, the above come from the XULPlanet reference, not an
official document...


> My opinion of XUL is pretty low at this point.  As I mentioned before,
> there is no DTD. 

I'm currently building an XML Schema (no flames please!). I have no
relation with Mozilla.org but I will submit it for review.


> XUL is poorly designed and poorly 
> documented. 

I don't think it's poorly designed, although poorly documented. Even if
it is, it works great; I especially appreciate the layout model and the
speed in which one can build cross platform apps. Add Mozilla's advanced
CSS and DOM support and you have any web developer's dream platform. Add
XPCOM and the Mozilla codebase and there are some serious opportunities
in there.


> FYI, XUL reference and tutorials at www.xulplanet.org seems to be most
> accurate.  I suspect its author had to browse through the 
> source code to
> get the right info.

Sadly, I cannot argue with that. However, the privilege of being able to
view the actual sourcecode is much better than any documentation under
certain circumstances...


Regards,

Manos





> 
> Best,
> 
> Don Park
> Docuverse
> 
> > I have seen a little bit on Application user interface 
> > standards and tools for creating user interfaces within 
> applications.
> > 
> > Is there some sites where there is more details on 
> > application user interfaces, todate I have seen only XUL 
> > Tutorial http://www.xulplanet.com/tutorials/xultu/
> > XPToolkit Architecture
> > http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/aom/AOM.html
> > 
> > The GNUe Form Definition Language 
> > http://gnue.org/docs/GNUeFormsTechRef/x303.htm> l
> > 
> > Scalar 
> > vector graphics allows fixed position screen 
> > resolution (HTML is free
> > form)
> > 
> > What I would like to know is whether there is a standard 
> > where the location of the screen objects can be fixed X & Y 
> > is a window, and that standard is the one which will likely 
> > become the recommendation.
> 
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