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Len, if I hadn't wasted - yes, wasted - so much of my time dealing with poorly-designed crap with a business agenda behind it, I might be inclined to agree with you. At this point I think we need to find a better balance between "my customers want XYZ feature" and "the XYZ feature is toxic to the technological ecosystem in which it is used." Right now the first is often heard, the second only rarely considered. Businesses are notoriously bad at considering ecosystems beyond the boundaries of their balance sheets, at least until it's made painfully clear that something's drastically wrong. I'm fed up with your notion that business is the heart and soul of all we do, and your naive faith that business processes are naturally helpful to technological development. I'd much rather talk angle-bracket details than "how is this good for business," and find the former much appropriate to discussion on a developers' list. It's way past time to make it clear that business process can in fact be toxic to technology, and that the interactions between the two aren't necessarily mutually supportive. They _can_ be positive occasionally, sure, but in my experience that's hardly the rule. On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 09:41, Bullard, Claude L (Len) wrote: > Simon sez: > > "It's (long past) time for people interested in the technology > to push back against the people interested in the business of > technology, even if that means biting the hand that feeds us. > XML hype seems to be over - maybe it's time to get XML's technological > house in order instead of chasing the big bucks. " > > That gets us nowhere. The interests of business using XML applications > and those selling them are precisely the same: robust, secure applications > that will ensure the kind of 24x7, 99.99 uptime demanded of business > systems. That means technology meeting business requirements, not > technologists ignoring them. For this to work, the business contracts > must be precise, and this is where hype hurts both sides. -- Simon St.Laurent Ring around the content, a pocket full of brackets Errors, errors, all fall down! http://simonstl.com
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