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Re: Objections to / uses of PSVI?

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• Subject: Re: Objections to / uses of PSVI?
• From: Joe English <jenglish@f...>
• Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 16:30:49 -0700
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Ronald Bourret wrote:
>
> 1) Why do people object so vociferously to the PSVI (other than the lack
> of a catchy name and the fact that it came from an unpopular spec)?

Why do you think the spec it comes from is so unpopular 
in the first place? :-)

There's a tremendous amount of complexity and unwanted 
baggage in W3C XML Schema, and the PSVI dumps most of it 
into our processing model.


> 2) How do PSVI proponents intend to use the PSVI?
>
> As far as I can tell, the PSVI contains three groups of information:
>
> 1) Additional data values (defaults). Since this already exists with
> DTDs, it seems any controversy here should have existed before the PSVI
> came to being.

I believe the general consensus is that, in retrospect,
including default attribute values in XML was a mistake.

This is one of those features that is tremendously useful
in SGML, so at the time it seemed like a good idea to keep
it in XML.  It was only after some experience using XML that
the interoperability problems became apparent.

It's now obvious -- to me at least -- that mixing validation
and infoset augmentation is the wrong way to go.
It works OK for SGML in a controlled environment, but
for XML there are much better ways to do things.

> 2) Type information. [...]
> 3) Validation information.  [...]
> Am I missing anything else here?


--Joe English

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