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Re: What does SOAP really add?


soap size limitation
Didier PH Martin wrote:

> 
> Didier replies:
> Tim if I understand you well, your point is that we update the URI specs (or
> create a new URI) in order to be able to perform method invocation. Since I
> do not have access to all TAG discussions can I ask you if the first thing
> that you suggest being standardized is about verb or method invocations?

You do have access to all meaningful TAG discussions:
  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag

No! I don't want a new part of the URI space.  I want SOAP operations
which have a moderate number of scalar parameters, RPC-like semantics,
and are safe/idempotent, to be available through an ordinary
boring http:... type URL.  I've proposed how to do this.

> There are some issues that need to cleared. Issues with actual URIs
> 
> a) size limitation

I don't believe this is a problem any more.

> b) syntax encoding (in some URIs the spaces and other characters have to be
> replaced by a different encoding)

The XML spec gives a recipe for how to do this.  Solved.

> c) verb vs. parameters encoding ( amore formal and standard way to encode
> verbs and parameters)

Agreed.  See my proposal.

> d) type enforcement when necessary (there are time when the parameters have
> to be conformant to a specific type, the receiving end needs to know that
> and have access to a specification file a la idl, wsdl and tutti quanti).

I'm not trying to cover this part of the problem.  I'm trying to hit
an 80/20 point.  If you need this stuff, you need the full SOAP
apparatus and you need to do POST. -Tim



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