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Re: Who can implement W3C XML Schema ?

• To: Dare Obasanjo <dareo@m...>
• Subject: Re: Who can implement W3C XML Schema ?
• From: Jiri Jirat <Jiri.Jirat@s...>
• Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 10:34:37 +0100
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I would like to join the discussion again.


I have talked to developers and what I have heard was
that their is at least one thing, where XML Schemas/ta are
better than Relax NG - when you do deserialization/serialization
of objects into SOAP messages.

The only words I can hear during the discussion are "developers",
"implementations", "implement" ... ?

But what about the users, who want to create just
documents, data files, which will be never represented
as Java/C#/C++ or whatever objects?

Haven't you forgotten us?

Users, for whom the DTD is not sufficient (multiple namespaces,
datatypes) and XML Schema is _so_ complex to learn!

Users, who DO not have time to dive in the XML Schema specification
for months and think in the terms of 
complexTypes/simpleTypes/restrictions/extensions,
because they have other work to do besides that.

I have read the Relax NG specification carefully, gone
through the examples and now I can write a schema in
a moment. It's so easy and yet powerful!

And for the documents it's BETTER!

Let the XML Schema live in the space of SOAP/WSDL/..,
but give us a choice!

If not, expect far more stupid questions, than mine.

Is XML Schema a technology for average XML users, or just
for an elite?


Jirka



Dare Obasanjo wrote:
> I apologise if this came off as arrogant or impolite. 
>  
> I accessed the URL from work by clicking a link on the public XML Schema comments page[0]  which also provides the same link that I provided. However, I was at work where my machine is configured to allow me access to W3C member-only lists transparently and didn't realize that although the link was provided on a public page it led to a members-only page. 
>  
> I assure you, that from now on I'll make sure to test my links by trying them from home before posting them to XML-DEV. 
>  
> Thanks for pointing this out. 
>  
> [0] http://www.w3.org/2001/05/xmlschema-rec-comments#pfiur-type
> 
> 	-----Original Message----- 
> 	From: Peter Jacobi [mailto:pj@w...] 
> 	Sent: Mon 3/25/2002 12:53 AM 
> 	To: Dare Obasanjo; xml-dev@l... 
> 	Cc: 
> 	Subject: RE:  Who can implement W3C XML Schema ?
> 	
> 	
> 
> 	Dare,
> 	
> 	It is arrogant and inpolite to say may "more info at" citing
> 	a password protected page.
> 	
> 	> As I mentioned previously, the seemingly contradictory dual nature of the
> 	> ur-type is a known issue in the spec which has been addressed.
> 	>
> 	> More info at
> 	> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-xml-schema-ig/2002Jan/0065.html
> 	
> 	
> 



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