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RE: Zvon - RFC repository

• To: Massimo Marchiori <massimo@w...>
• Subject: RE: Zvon - RFC repository
• From: Miloslav Nic <nicmila@s...>
• Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:41:31 +0100 (CET)
• Cc: xml-dev@l...
• In-reply-to: <NGBBJNKIMLOPPCFHEJEMKELDCAAA.massimo@w...>

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Massimo Marchiori wrote:



1) I am using my own format, formatting according to rfc2629 would 
   take much longer. At the beginning I was trying to add more elements, 
   but the huge size of the task and many irregularities in RFCs decided 
agains it. But I guess it would not be complicated to make a partial 
transcoding.

2)  I have no objection agains exposing the codes, but the size of the 
databases makes it impossible to make them available for direct download 
for everybody. But I am willing to  make them downloadble to anyone with 
serious interest. I would feel much more comfortable, if several copies 
were available independent of Zvon original, 


3) If anyone is interested
   I will be glad to cooperate. 



> Miroslav, this is all very interesting, and kudos for actually taking
> the burden of doing all the work.
> A question of clarification: I couldn't find evidence of what XML is
> actually used;
> did you use the standard rfc2629? In any case, the really interesting thing
> would be to expose the xml source, so that more annotations could be added
> on,
> more interesting queries (xml-based), could be perfomed upon, and yes,
> different
> layouts could be experienced too.
> So, any thoughts of coordination with Marshall Rose's project? Any thought
> about
> exposing the xml sources?
> 
> Thanks much,
> -M
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Miloslav Nic [mailto:nicmila@s...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 1:50 PM
> > To: xml-dev@l...
> > Subject:  Zvon - RFC repository
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > last June I  announced at xml-dev the beginning of Zvon RFC repository
> > project:
> >
> > http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200106/msg00183.html
> >
> >
> > At this moment a very important milestone has been reached:
> >
> > all on-line accessible  RFCs were transformed to XML format and
> > processed:
> >
> >  http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200106/msg00183.html
> >
> > The repository features:
> > - clickable table of contents
> > - titles on all levels are searchable
> > - RFC dependencies including the list of RFCs the current RFC is referred
> > by and W3C standards referring to the current RFC
> > - obsoleted RFCs have different style
> > - main indexes show obsolation chains
> > - index of humorous RFC ( some are really good :) )
> >
> >
> > I have started to harness the material to leverage the material
> > usefulness:
> >
> > RFC status codes search -
> > http://zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC_share/PHP/numbersSearch.php
> >
> > searches status codes of selected standards and links to relevant
> > parts of
> > the specification
> >
> >
> >
> > The repository is based on over 3100 XML files (200 -  10 000
> > lines long) manually tagged (with some parts automated by Python scripts,
> > and with a major emacs mode created for RFC processing.
> > It was not an easy job and it brought me quite a few steps toward a
> > lunatic asylum but the worst part is finally over.
> >
> > I have corrected quite a few misconceptions in my head during the
> > process,
> > e.g.:
> > - all characters in  RFCs are from  ASCII set
> > - there are only 99 ways how to specify chapters  and other sections
> > - reference citations usually lead to some literature in Bibliography
> > section
> > - ...
> > - ...
> >
> > but on the other hand I was amazed by a quality of text of many RFCs,
> > I must applaud the decision to use an unique integer as an identifier for
> > each RFC (it is a real pity W3C did not choose this way), and I felt a
> > touch of nostalgia ( several RFCs are several months older then me).
> >
> >
> > I hope you will enjoy the result.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ******************************************
> > <firstName> Miloslav </firstName>
> > <surname>   Nic      </surname>
> >
> > <mail>    nicmila@s...    </mail>
> > <support> http://www.zvon.org  </support>
> >
> >
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> 
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> | Massimo Marchiori                                             |
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> | Email: massimo@w...                                         |
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> 

-- 
******************************************
<firstName> Miloslav </firstName>
<surname>   Nic      </surname>

<mail>    nicmila@s...    </mail>
<support> http://www.zvon.org  </support>

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