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Re: 2002 as the year of XML (meltdown due to patents)


david winer meltdown
I agree with both of these sentiments. A friend of mine constantly forwards me
Cringley's monologues and I'm contantly surprised by how little actual insight
(or research for that matter) is contained in his articles. I'll give him
this, he is a very good trend spotter and a good writer. I am reminded of this
quote

    Everything journalists say is accurate unless it involves a field I know
something about. -

As for patents and XML, I can't help but feel that this is indeed the tip of
the iceberg. After all, what most of us do with XML is simply reimplement old
technology with our favorite new buzzword. It's just a matter of time before
more companies claim that simnply XMLizing some technology in an area they
have patents is a no-no.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Winer" <dave@u...>
To: "Mike Champion" <mc@x...>; <xml-dev@l...>
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 5:17 PM
Subject: Re:  2002 as the year of XML (meltdown due to patents)


> It's a brain dead article. He clearly doesn't know anything about XML, he's
> been hearing Steve Ballmer yell the word (he doesn't know what it is either)
> over and over and he wrote a column saying "I think this is the year." Not
> much more, if it's there, I missed it. And if he was paying attention to
> what's really going on he might have noticed there's a fly in the XML
> soup -- patents. Dave
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Champion" <mc@x...>
> To: <xml-dev@l...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:41 PM
> Subject: Re:  2002 as the year of XML
>
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> > 1/6/2002 6:38:30 PM, "Simon St.Laurent" <simonstl@s...> wrote:
> >
> > >I worry that if Cringeley's right, it's probably for reasons which won't
> > >take us any place interesting:
> > >
> > >http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20020103.html
> >
> > Hmmm, but 2 and 3 are in the context of prediction #1:
> > "The dominant theme will be the continuing battle between evil and evil as
> Microsoft expands its .
> > NET strategy and the rest of the industry responds."
> >
> > Which side are YOU on in the battle of evil vs evil <grin>
> >
> > Seriously I'm intrigued by "The big XML hit for 2002 will come from a
> company called KnowNow. "
> >
> > KnowNow doesn't hype  the same old same old Webservices/SOAP/UDDI/.NET Is
> The New Paradigm stuff, it sells
> > something called an event router.  Byte had an intriguing, but confusing
> article called The Event-Driven Internet
> > last month
> http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1816/byt20011128s0003/1203_udell.html that
> made me
> > curious about this.   See also
> http://siliconvalley.internet.com/news/article/0,2198,3531_793671,00.html
> >
> > Apparently their products enable a publish-subscribe programming model (as
> opposed to the client-server
> > or call-response mode) over the standard Web infrastructure, and work by
> 'holding open persistent
> >  HTTP/HTTPS connections between the KnowNow Event Router and the
> application),
> > and KnowNow JavaScript Microserver (its Java-based counterpart) ...
> eliminating the need to periodically "refresh."'
> >
> > The Byte article mentions other publish-subscribe products on the horizon
> (including dear old Hailstorm).  This all sounds
> > kindof neat and usful, but I don't see it being the Big XML Hit for 2002.
> Can someone explain the hype-think here?
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