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Amazing... one small piece of "borderline flamage" from me (I take the blame/credit/responsibility ;->) sparks a lively and useful discussion (15+ messages in this thread now ;->)... So, proof that there are times when minor "flamage" is not so bad... if the ends justify it ;-> You can flame me now... I'm already charred beyond recognition, so it won't hurt so bad ;-> Cheers, Chris --------------------------------------- Chris Parkerson Product Manager eXcelon Corporation Burlington, MA (781) 674-5393 http://www.exceloncorp.com --------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Champion, Mike [mailto:Mike.Champion@S...] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:27 PM To: xml-dev@l... Subject: RE: XPath conformance? was RE: storing XML files > -----Original Message----- > From: Evan Lenz [mailto:elenz@x...] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 8:52 PM > To: Tom Bradford > Cc: Champion, Mike; xml-dev@l... > Subject: Re: XPath conformance? was RE: storing XML files > > Just don't pretend that you're any longer in conformance to > the standard. XPath 1.0 Section 6 says in toto: "Conformance XPath is intended primarily as a component that can be used by other specifications. Therefore, XPath relies on specifications that use XPath (such as [XPointer] and [XSLT]) to specify criteria for conformance of implementations of XPath and does not define any conformance criteria for independent implementations of XPath." http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath#section-Conformance Also, extension functions are defined in XSLT, not XPath, so neither adding operators or functions to the XPath 1.0 spec is any more or less correct. If you want a "standard" query language for XML DBMS, wait until XQuery comes out, (or get the XML world to agree that XSLT is "the" XML query language, I don't care) then we can argue about each other's conformance. Admittedly, I shouldn't have used the word "conformance" in spinning off this thread. My point was that in a fluid technology/standards situation such as we find ourselves in now, "conformance" is less important than learning what really works. It's time now to figure out what query language syntax/semantics hits the right balance of theoretical rigor, implementation efficiency, end-user understandability, and so forth. The argument "I am more XPath 1.0 conformant than thou" doesn't contribute much to this process. If y'all wanna have a religious war, there are plenty of real ones to choose from these days, sigh. ----------------------------------------------------------------- The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl>
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