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Good one, Dave. Six. We train ourselves not to see commonplace things (of). (A hint for such puzzles: habit blinds you. Read it bottom to top, right to left.) The web service challenge is to figure out orders of events (orchestration). The basic interop based on sending essentially documents back and forth has worked for non-digital systems for hundreds of years (maybe thousands). The task is identification of the right service and coordination given a complex task. Simple tools for simple tasks, but simple won't stay simple if it is all you know how to apply. Most markup apps start simple, then the requirements pile up. If the design is good, it grows gracefully. Otherwise, it becomes kudzu and you rebuild at tremendous costs. Doubt it? Gencoding is over 30 years old. Why are we using XML? Hypertext became commonplace because of the HTTP protocol and staying away from the requirements of complex layout apps the requirements of which were derived from 1000dpi print systems for military manuals. The system limits drive the design. The web designers weren't clever or enlightened. BBN and 72dpi screens had made the hard choices. Make sure the technology chosen is up to the challenge of the task and that the task is real. Resist web for web's sake. Len http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h -----Original Message----- From: Dave Winer [mailto:dave@u...] >The technology is no different, practically, to CORBA. Nothing will really change, just a new set of tools will be sold, is all :-) In practical terms, SOAP and XML-RPC are different from CORBA because the technology is so bare-bones that it can be understood and deployed in a couple of hours by anyone with a modest scripting background. That's why it's catching on. Much the same way hypertext didn't become commonplace until HTML came along and made it so that all you had to do was put a few files in a folder and turn the server app on, and boom, you're on the net. Drop a script in a folder, edit your server configuration, and you're running networked apps. Want to tweak the code a bit? No problem, it's just a script. With all due respect, I think this list has missed the maturation of this technology. It's moving forward steadily. Want a demo of how minds work when they only see what they're expecting to see? Try this little puzzle [1]. There's no trick. Ninety-nine in a hundred people can't count the F's. Now go to this page [2], and follow the links and tell me a new network isn't building now. Dave [1] http://davenet.userland.com/1997/03/03/DonsAmazingPuzzle [2] http://plant.blogger.com/api/xmlrpc_newPost.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org <http://www.xml.org>, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription manager: <http://lists.xml.org/ob/adm.pl>
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