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> -----Original Message----- > From: Simon St.Laurent [mailto:simonstl@s...] > Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 9:27 PM > To: Champion, Mike > Cc: xml-dev > Subject: RE: "Uh, what do I need this for" (was RE: XML.COM: How I > Learne d t o Love daBomb) > > I wish I had that confidence. I'm afraid I see SOAP as > having overbuilt > on rather rickety foundations in the first place, overstressing a > protocol that wasn't designed for (or even accidentally suitable for) > the kinds of operations SOAP is proposed to handle. FWIW, SOAP (as of 1.1) is a wire format, and not intrinsically tied to HTTP. The current draft, it is true, only defines HTTP (and HTTP extension framework) bindings, but I know that a lot of thought has gone into making it protocol-neutral. You mentioned BEEP ... I don't know of any official BEEP binding for SOAP being worked on, but it is definitely on the WG's radar, at least as a use case. I completely agree that the Web Services hype outstrips plausible reality by a wide margin; none of the "opera loving car" keynotes mention the little detail that the intrinsically greater latency, insecurity, and unreliability of the internet requires applications that employ Web Services to be designed much differently than LAN-oriented DCOM/CORBA apps are designed... and (potentially?) giving a new generation of script kiddies a simple way through all the world's firewalls scares hell out of me. I personally (obligatory disclaimer ...) suspect that SOAP over HTTP will find its niche mainly as a cleaner, more standardized way of doing what people have been doing with HTTP parameters and CGI scripts "forever. I've sweated over the production and parsing of enough URLs from Hell that I grok the SOAP / UDDI / WSDL vision of doing this in a more orderly manner. Whether that provides a solid foundation for Yet Another Paradigm is another matter entirely.
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