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On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Edd Dumbill wrote: > On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 11:22:44PM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, XML Everywhere wrote: > > > If you have XML messaging over http, why do you need > > > anything else? > > > [ .. ] > > Though the final schedule isn't out yet, this is exactly the talk I'm > > giving for O'Reilly's Open Source conference (albeit actually in the > > mod_perl track). HTTP is a great applications protocol - it handles > > errors, parameter passing, multiple result sets (via MIME), return type > > negotiation, etc. I hope to open people's minds to other possibilities > > (though I don't expect many attendees!). > > Great marketing, Matt. Marketing? Oh, you mean http://conferences.oreilly.com/ ? :-) > Seriously, I'm interested in what the perceived buy is from the XML > protocols over straight XML+HTTP. My suspicion is that the main two > reasons are the lack of perception of HTTP in this light, and the lack > of friendly enough APIs (esp. on Microsoft platforms) to enable HTTP to > be used between applications. Exactly. CGI really isn't enough - it doesn't give you the control you need over the server to implement this stuff, which is why it's going in the mod_perl track (For the uninitiated, mod_perl just allows you to write Apache modules in Perl). Servlets are probably too abstract (don't quote me on that - I'm not a servlets programmer). So SOAP/XMLRPC layers everything on top of simple HTTP GET/POST with only 200 return codes. Ick. That's http://conferences.oreilly.com/, for anyone who wants to come to my talk :-) -- <Matt/> /|| ** Founder and CTO ** ** http://axkit.com/ ** //|| ** AxKit.com Ltd ** ** XML Application Serving ** // || ** http://axkit.org ** ** XSLT, XPathScript, XSP ** // \\| // ** mod_perl news and resources: http://take23.org ** \\// //\\ // \\
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