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Wayne Steele wrote: > > Are you guys familiar with ASN.1 ? > > I think it's what you're talking about. Discussion on ASN.1 appears from time to time on this list. Those interested can find more information on ASN.1 at: http://asn1.elibel.tm.fr As far as ASN.1 together with XML goes, you can have a look at: http://asn1.elibel.tm.fr/xml/ > >From: Danny Ayers <danny@p...> > >To: "Al B. Snell" <alaric@a...> > >CC: The Deviants <xml-dev@l...> > >Subject: RE: Images embedded in XML > >Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 12:22:47 +0600 > > > >I'll happily agree with you that XML does seem to have been a real success > >in documentation. I can't deny also that you could put together a > >self-describing binary format as you suggest. I would suggest that for such > >a format to be really useful, a tree-based model would be preferable to > >flat/relational model. You will need to convert between the serialized form > >and other forms (e.g. an in-memory tree), which if the format is not to be > >too rigid would in effect be a kind of parsing - though admittedly you > >could > >do it n times fasting than e.g. SAX. Ok, so if you put all this together, > >what would you be gaining? Say an order or two of magnitude of speed? (and > >the same kind of gains for data storage) What would you be losing? > >Human-readability - I for one wouldn't lose any sleep over that. > >Compatibility with visual representation systems (XML/XSL/XSLT/XHTML etc.) > >- > >this is hugely useful for a not inconsiderable range of applications, but > >could be replaced by a standard set of conversion tools XML <-> XDF. A huge > >range of interfaces & systems...but we could live with that. > > > >So why not? One big reason - there isn't a commonly accepted standard. Ok, > >XML has major faults, SOAP is downright ugly etc. etc. but at least XML is > >spoken everywhere. A standard that can be built on top of and worked > >around. > >We can solve the real-world problems, ok in a sub-optimal way, but surely > >that's all we really need. Do we want systems that will be 1000x more > >efficient tomorrow, or ones that may be slow and clunky but actually work > >with each other *today*? > > > >Maybe a binary format will come along and be accepted worldwide - but given > >the current climate I think it's highly unlikely in the near future. I > >think > >we'll be looking at XML & kludges for some time to come. -- Olivier DUBUISSON (ITU-T ASN.1 Rapporteur) france telecom R&D _ DTL/MSV - 22307 Lannion Cedex - France ( ) tel: +33 2 96 05 38 50 - fax: +33 2 96 05 39 45 / \/ -------------------------------------- \_/\ Site ASN.1 : http://asn1.elibel.tm.fr/
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