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Ann Navarro wrote: > You end up with chaos, or something that looks like the > progress that IETF gets. This is irredeemable rubbish. <rant> I have come to the conclusion that the most public defenders of the W3C are the W3C's own worst PR nightmare. Now I would prefer more openness in the W3C, but I'm not W3C curmudgeon to the extent that, say Simon is, though I respect his view. Nevertheless, I've observed that whenever this debate comes up in certain fora, some of the W3C's defenders always seem to fall back to personal attacks on their opponents or deprecation of the work of other organizations. When I was arguing against xsl:script on xsl-list and I suggested that a community effort to eliminate the root need for xsl:script would be opportune, I mentioned OASIS and got back from Scott Boag of the XSL WG a summary dismissal. I also heard nastiness directed at OASIS in the pre-RDDL discussion. Ann Navarro's comment on the IETF is not the first such put down of the IETF I've heard from a W3C booster. I've had the priviledge of meeting or privately corresponding with many W3C staffers and members, and I'm ever quite relieved to note that this clique attitude is not typical within the W3C (nor is resistance to more openness, I should add). As Simon says, I've seen a lot of positive changes in the ways of the W3C in recent times, and it's great to see the silent majority make things happen. </rant> But back to consideration of the IETF's progress. By any conceivable accounting, I would consider that the organization that brought us HTTP, SMTP, MIME, Internet Media Types, RFC822, LDAP, URL, RFC-822 and WebDAV, to grab a short list, is a resounding success, and enormously progressive. -- Uche Ogbuji Principal Consultant uche.ogbuji@f... +1 303 583 9900 x 101 Fourthought, Inc. http://Fourthought.com 4735 East Walnut St, Ste. C, Boulder, CO 80301-2537, USA Software-engineering, knowledge-management, XML, CORBA, Linux, Python
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