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RE: A real community service

• From: Michael Fitzgerald <mike@w...>
• To: Jonathan Borden <jborden@m...>, xml-dev@l...
• Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:22:12 -0800

I don't think Tim was being disingenuous at all. It was just a funny
coincidence. He probably appears on the site without his direct permission.
I certainly did not mean for it to be a laugh at his expense; there
certainly have been a few laughs at my expense on this and other lists. %^}

I got an email this morning from a suspicious source about a turf dispute
between SYS-CON vs. Camelot Communications, both XML conference purveyors. I
am not surprised by the proliferation of conferences or in-fighting when
there is so much hay to be made. I think we'll have fewer choices in a few
years. XML conferences, like XML "standards," tools, and books, are all
subject to the "meritocracy of geeks" test (the MOG test?) we heard tell of
on this list last year. Word of mouth -- whether about books, movies, ski
boots, or speakers -- rules in the long run, and sometimes even in the short
run.

I think XML 1.0, XSLT, and SAX have passed MOG. I think RELAX, RDDL and TREX
and other initiatives by people who know what they are doing will pass MOG.
I hope other W3C activities will too, but the jury is out on many of them.
Strong swimmers rise to the surface, and sometimes even cross the English
Channel. I'll be watching closely.

-Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Borden [mailto:jborden@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 6:18 PM
> To: Michael Fitzgerald; xml-dev@l...
> Subject: RE: A real community service
>
>
> Michael Fitzgerald wrote:
> >
> > I had a look at the XML Edge site. The irony of seeing a chapeau-ed Tim
> > Bray -- twice mind you -- emblazoned on the page, in light of his
> > post, was
> > one of the best moments of my day.
>
> yeah well at first glance you might think that Tim was being disingenuous
> but what is really outrageous is that this site (xmledge or whatever) is
> listing people who gave keynotes at last year's XML DevCon in San Jose ...
> which I was at and at which Tim as gave a terrific keynote. it seems to me
> that this other conference site has patently false advertising.
> on the other
> hand I may have simply had no idea where I was at the time.
>
> -Jonathan
>
>
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