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Steve had to go into these woods when there weren't trails. That was true for a lot of the Hytimers. Most people since have had the advantage of the trail they hacked. But it was a trail ,not a highway, and a hard one to hike. Remember, many many weren't the highly trained CS grads that infest markup today. They were lawyers, tech writers, musicians, teachers, lieutenant commanders, and the occasional really brilliant CS grad like Neill Kipp trying to hold it together. Steve did an amazing job working with Charles Goldfarb and Yuri Rubinsky trying to keep this going in the very lean days when the only thing SGML was taken seriously for was as input to a typesetter. Ten years ago, hypertext was for AI gurus and wackos and that perception was deliberately used to keep other initiatives alive or in front. The pain quotient was high but the goal was worth it. Information free of the hardware, lasting, right, reusable, available to anyone with a connection. We are past all that now down to the CS issues like data models. Some people are hitting the wall they hit then dead on, that extensibility and interoperation are two poles with an analogical gulf that is quite wide. There is no free lunch. There are tools, techniques, and clever hacks to pull all this together, but at the end of the day, the web is a noisy communication channel and to preserve freedom of choice (the means to evolve), has to be that. Chaos is the engine of evolution. What that means is that this job is never done. It goes through phases, it gets passed on to the new guy like the Maytag repairman, but it is always a job looking for skilled workers. Steve was, is, and always will be a pioneer in our field. He bought his own machete to carve the trail. He took a lot of risks, paid high dues, and is still out there hacking. He deserves our respect. From what I know of him, the best way to give him that is to pick up a tool and keep the trail clear for those that follow. Len http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h -----Original Message----- From: Vegt, Jan [mailto:Jan.Vegt@s...] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 4:31 AM To: Bullard, Claude L (Len); xml-dev@l... Subject: RE: more grist Len, Good stuff. I admit I was never able follow Steve Newcomb on HyTime. I just found Robin's excellent compilation on "the power of groves" www.oasis-open.org/cover/groves20000210.html Some interesting prior art here it seems ... Jan --------------------------------------- >So, well-formed anybody? InfoSets next? Sheesh. >Groves and grove plans just like the HyTime guys >said it would be. I don't think that avoidable >unless someone wants to redo the base infoSet >to accomodate a limited set of vocabularies, >but I think the slope is becoming ice quickly. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The xml-dev list is sponsored by XML.org, an initiative of OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org> The list archives are at http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/ To unsubscribe from this elist send a message with the single word "unsubscribe" in the body to: xml-dev-request@l...
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