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Actually: 1. Henry Ford was reinventing the production assembly line techniques of Olds(?) although he is often mistakenly credited as the inventor (index of citation noise). He improved them and poured money into them and was said to be crazy because of the size of the plants he built to support it. Turned out, crazy like a fox. But remember, he also was the one who by dint of the success and investment, had a tough time understanding the need to retool and change the model. GM handed him his head for that failure. 2. Sarnoff invested heavily in AM radio and as a result of his manipulations, it took a long time (about fifty years) for the superior FM format to dominate the broadcast industry. Many of you are perhaps too young to remember that FM was the broadcast ghetto almost into the 1980s in America. "Worse is better" isn't how things work. Simpler does better until knowledge in light of implementation becomes understanding and gets a sufficiently large community that other alternatives become uneconomical where an economy is not only money, but whatever currency of exchange is recognized at the interfaces. HTML is giving way to XML. Despite Connolly's failure to "grok" HyTime, HyTime techniques and concepts have emerged and been put to serious use. CSS is easier to learn but FOs are gaining in currency. None of these disappeared; they awaited a community of users. It's really an issue of how much how many can understand at one time, IOW, a thresholding model for a cascade. Ontologies, although expensive to build, are already used in knowledge base systems (GE used these to make soup) and will become a document type required for some kinds of deep transactions. They aren't that easy to build and as we have discussed, for widespread usage, a document type needs serious authoritative credentials and even then, in degree. An OED is needed for some defintions, and Webster works for the majority of users. Them that needs 'em will build 'em. Question is, will they share them? Maybe but first the means to share is required and that brings us back to Topic Maps and RDF. Steve deRose as I recall noted that xlink databases could be a business with a tidy profit margin. I think the golem of universality is put away easily by serious implementors. We just have to be sure the markets understand that in terms they can communicate to avoid past mistakes and losses due to overhyped visions. Another day at the byteMines really... Len http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h -----Original Message----- From: W. E. Perry [mailto:wperry@f...] Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 1:23 AM To: XML DEV Subject: Re: local, global (was various ontology, RDF, topic maps) Uche Ogbuji wrote: > Hmm. I disagree. I think Henry Ford effectively scatched the idea that > there is value in reinventing the wheel, within the scope of his > operation. Since then there have been many all-american examples of > effective, capitalist commerce without wheel re-invention. Rather than request those examples, let me ask you (and this web-published list) if you would feel the same satisfaction with the finality of Bill Paley's or David Sarnoff's 'wheel' as you apparently do with Henry Ford's. Surely the promulgators of commercial broadcasting conglomerates would find little value in reinventing the wheel which they have perfected. Yet our daily choice of this forum for what may be our best or most thoughtful work indicates that we believe there is a place for a very distinct alternative. There are also, of course, electric car evangelists and mass transit zealots and other stripes of opinion which would take equally strong exception to blithely accepting Henry Ford's product (and the ontological structure and epistemological viewpoint it embodies) as the final word in its own domain. Recall that Martin Bryan said: Here in Europe we are trying to create a Single Market. The problem is that this single market is multilingual and multi-industry. CEN/ISSS has groups working on ontologies for engineering, medical supplies, furniture manufacture, shoes, ... There are significant amounts of overlap in these ontologies, but no knowledge of what each other has done or is doing. Trying to get them to stop reinventing the wheel is a real problem. Personally, I can think of no method more likely to produce a new and unexpected insight--and out of it, some new best practice--than that multiple simultaneous reinvention of the wheel (nor any more certain to suppress a potential innovation than blind service to the first principle of a Single Market, or of any other One True Way). Indeed Martin Bryan's formulation, above, would be difficult to improve on as a statement of the totalitarian pole in the spectrum of opinion regarding the proper organization of complex systems. I prefer the foederal approach, and at the heart of the foederal approach are statements of the process by which the foederated nodes execute specific tasks: which does what, and in what order. The detail of effecting each step is realized at the individual node, and there is significant latitude for the idiosyncratic accomplishment of it. The fundamental mechanism of adaptability and growth for the system as a whole is that the nodes, without externally mandated changes at any of them, may be recombined in new aggregations with new order of process to accomplish utterly different ends. So yes, Uche, I unquestionably prefer choice one over choice two. Choice one responds to each new problem (indeed, where necessary each new instance of each new problem) with the advantages of adaptation at the level of each node as well as at the level of the overall order of process, which defines the system as a whole. Choice two relies on the authoritative fiat of a canonical solution. Whence derives this authority? I dunno. In the case of choice one, the authority is qui fit--it derives from the adaptable node within the adaptable system responding successfully to the new and unexpected problem as it is encountered. Respectfully, Walter Perry
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