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Hey, lighten up, guys. :->} You have to remember who's writing this stuff. Dvorak is the original troll, who loves nothing better than riling everyone up with outrageously over-simplified one-liners. Cheers, Bob On Thu, 5 Oct 2000, Dmitri Pavlenkov wrote: > "elegant simplicity of HTML"? > To me it looks when HTML is simple, it's not elegant, > and when it's elegant, it's not simple anymore! What, > and add to this different UA requirements, even among > desktop browsers, that becomes a greater mess. > > "a simple informational Web site for themselves or > their families, or for a small business" > I'm sure families and small businesses would > appreciate better viewing and more features, if they > could only get them :) I'd say they'll be very excited > when they visit even a simple SVG site. Which _is_ > easy, simple, and elegant. > > "XML is, in many ways, a vague standard insofar as > definitions of XML elements are concerned" > can we seriously consider that? The author is > probably confusing definitions and interpretations. > After all XML is a language for writing languages. The > rules of writing XML are very strict, but there are no > restrictions on what you may write. > > Ok, here's the whole paragraph: > "Just look at the recent recommendations by the W3C > (World Wide Web Consortium), which dominates Web > standards. The W3C has recently added XSLT and XPath > to the mix of XML-related standards to watch. XPath is > a FAT (file allocation table) applied to an XML > document. Great, now we need this kind of thing to > keep track of a page. XSLT means Extensible Stylesheet > Language Transformations. This amounts to a conversion > mechanism that is predefined so that various media can > adapt the XML Web page and view it exactly as it was > created on competing browsers. So instead of some > universal way to handle XML on different devices, you > can define your own custom ways to handle it." > I apologize for quoting the whole thing, but it seems > author here, while trying to point out disadvantages > of XML tools, managed to show us their great advantage > :) > > "Nobody knows what to do about this." > author is generalizing, I know what to do about this, > you probably know, too, he should have said: "I don't > know what to do about this." > > Another paragraph (I just love it): > "John Simpson's seminar at Seybold was titled "XML > Q&A: Choosing an XML Parser." His description read: > "Validating or non-validating? Java-based, Perl, or C? > This month we tackle the tricky issue of which parser > to use for your XML applications." These are serious > programming concerns. This seminar marks the death of > simplicity." > Do users write programs? Do they really care what > parsers we use? All they need is the end result. > > "As all this happens, the simple nature of the Web and > the Web's user-friendly character will be killed even > before we see the tenth anniversary of the first GUI > browser, which was released around 1993. " > I don't know when the first GUI broser was released, > but here are some points: How did interface change > since XML and co. came into scene? We still use > keyboard and mouse, touch screens etc. Do we have type > or click more? Now users can get custom presentation, > custom interface, custom interpretation, how > friendlier can you get? > > This article is just another kind of bland slander > against something that author doesn't understand. His > position of HTML vs XML, has no relevance to the > situation. In most cases XML in combination with XSLT > is used to produce HTML. Where do you see the > competition? It looks like cooperation to me. > > > --- "Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@i...> > wrote: > > > > http://news.excite.com/news/zd/001004/10/killing-the > > > > This one will be believed because of the source. > > He doesn't even know when GUI browsers really first > > appeared. > >
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