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It's even tougher than that sometimes. o XML: easy to illustrate by example. It is smarter ASCII and you only have to toss up a content markup and a presentation markup to get the point across. o XML processor. Tough. To really Get It, someone has to become acquainted with the InfoSet. In fact, if they get past that, almost all of the other specs are easier to absorb. But Rick, I've sat and watched COM programmers twist in the wind on that one. They can't get the infoset separate from schemas. Something in the object background predisposes them to not be able to think at that level. When they do get it, infoSet clears up a lot of What All Those Other Specs Are For. o All the other specs. These really are use-case problems as you say but the other dimension is role. For example, schemas should be understood by everyone, not in that they should be able to write them, but understand their role in applying them. I am thinking here about a business manager who needs to know that he is responsible for ensuring that a particular schema is called out in a specific process by contract whether that contract be in english on paper, or in XLang in a BizTalk orchestration engine. He may not want to understand more about the namespace unless his business owns it. That is a hairy issue not so much in the technical implications, but the social/political implications of association of the string to domain and authority. Otherwise, Steve's example about the page being presentable vs being more functional is really about as deep as the Dvorak's need to understand. XML enables more functional web pages. People who only want to read web pages don't need XML. They can call a travel agent to book a flight. Len Bullard Intergraph Public Safety clbullar@i... http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h -----Original Message----- From: Rick JELLIFFE [mailto:ricko@g...] We can only talk about simplicity as a virtue after stating when and for whom or for what purpose, IMHO. A lot of it comes down to disagreements about layering and options which can only be evaluated in some kind of context, e.g. your use-cases.
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